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To: NorthMountain

How’s that going for you-—because laws on rape and murder stopped happening when we made laws. It happened a lot less when we were a moral society. Laws didn’t slow down rape and immorality, societal norms and accountability to God did.

But I digress-—I wasn’t talking about the obvious (rape, Murder, stealing) because they are the 10 commandment laws and go without saying. I’m talking about these stupid laws of banning certain websites, setting curfews for driving, drinking ages, etc. These should all be left to the parent-—However, our society has dumbed down. That’s what I mean that you can’t legislate morality-—we have to get back to having a heart for Christ. All the laws in the world will do absolutely nothing without a change of heart.


18 posted on 04/04/2024 7:02:14 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: mikelets456

OK, you’ve convinced me.

Laws against murder, rape, and robbery are worthless. Repeal them all! You can’t legislate morality ...

ROFL!!!

It’s a stupid argument.


20 posted on 04/04/2024 7:13:07 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: mikelets456
How’s that going for you-—because laws on rape and murder stopped happening when we made laws. It happened a lot less when we were a moral society. Laws didn’t slow down rape and immorality, societal norms and accountability to God did.

Wrong, and which supports abolishing such, contrast to Scripture. Laws did and do deter down rape and immorality, conversely, laws that penalize dissent from PC deter the latter. But laws only most effectively morally work when they flow from a government and a populace that supports traditional universal Biblical moral laws, leaving outlaws to be the minority.

While the latter become the majority due to the moral declension of the heart, yet this does not invalidate the function of laws, from noise ordinances to murder. For as enforced, they serve to control, if not convert, the rebellious. They police are usually called upon an assaulter.

When man is not rightly controlled from within by God and sound conscience then he musty be controlled from without. The function of the church is to foster the former, while to the state is the just use of the sword of man upon those who do not act consistent with God and conscience.

And the Bible supports moral laws:

Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: (1 Peter 2:13-15)

However, when the people fall away from the Lord and elect liberal lawmakers, then the latter persecute the Godly, and iniquity increases.

In short, both formation of Godly character as well as laws that punish unGodly actions are correct, but both are to work together.

58 posted on 04/04/2024 11:17:59 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: mikelets456

indeed!

One of the foremost constitutional theorists of the founding generation, John Adams, observed,

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”


68 posted on 04/04/2024 12:09:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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