Posted on 04/02/2024 7:05:25 AM PDT by Red Badger
“This glosses over the fact that his response was disproportionate to the actual threat.”
Harmon as a celebrity undoubtedly has security cameras and if they support her version of the story she’ll release the video. If she doesn’t then that’ll tell a story too.
In any case, the law is not on her side here.
“Looks to me like a fence isn’t necessary”
That’s not what the applicable law says.
This is true.
The owners seem to have a stock response: It wasn't our fault, or our dog's fault, even when the evidence is clear it was their fault and the dog clearly was aggressive.
The evidence is *NOT* clear. The picture I saw of the dog did not lead me to believe he was any sort of threat to a full grown man.
I've had to kick annoying and vicious little dogs across the yard before, but it never occurred to me that I should kill them, especially not with a gun.
I think this guy is a trigger happy little perv who gets off on killing animals.
At least there is as much evidence to support that as there is to support your view of events.
My thoughts as well. It is not a large dog but it doesn't look small either. Looks large enough to inflict a pretty significant bite and do some damage if it goes into attack mode and inflicts several bites. A dog of 25-30 pounds is a smallish dog but is capable of producing damage on a human. No one has the obligation of standing there and taking bites from someone's uncontrolled dog.
I get the feeling that the cops were thinking that the dog deserved what it got.
Which dog was it?
I see this as a bigger problem with someone who shoots a stray dog for no good reason.
Her explanation of expectations (Instacart order and events (e.g., ring camera charging) don’t really make sense.
You are required to make a reasonable determination that an attack is imminent and that it poses a reasonable bodily threat to you.
We have only this man's word that this is the case, and I see his response as excessively disproportionate to the alleged threat he faced.
Maybe Keanu can kill him with....”a pencil”.
Undercover ATF agent?
Good thing you escaped in time! Did the homeowner get a notice or how did they handle things like that back then?
The entire problem here is Angie Harmon.
How can you tell a dog is "relatively harmless" from a still picture presented by the owner?
Dogs act much differently when not in the presence of their owner.
Dogs, genetically, have the capacity of being aggressive and dangerous. A bite from even a small dog can cause significant damage, especially if infection sets in.
Owners have the legal responsibility to control their dog. They are responsible for what their dog does.
I have repeatedly encountered owners who deny any responsibility for their dog's actions, even after incontrovertible proof their dogs did enormous damage, usually to livestock, but occasionally to humans.
My machine says that file has errors in it and won't display it.
Not sure but the link provides a photo. Not a pit or an aggressive looking dog.
I wouldn't try to kill him, but I would certainly want to see him beaten very badly with a baseball bat so that he will have a month in the hospital to think about what he has done.
This does not seem like a justified shooting to me. If other facts come out that changes the appearance of this, I will change my mind, but from what I can see right now, this doesn't look like a reasonable thing that he did.
"Merle the Muslim"? Doesn't sound right.
Still if the driver felt threatened couldn't he have used dog spray or some other repellent?
Me either. If I thought he was going to try to bite me, I would kick him across the yard.
Shooting him is a bridge too far, and seems to me to be the mentality of a psychopath.
That is not correct. We have a report the police concluded he acted in self-defense.
We do not know what the police know. It might become available from something like a freedom of information act request.
I have investigated cases where the police had several previous reports of problems from a dog or dog, which they took into consideration when the dog was finally shot.
The owner(s), when self-reporting on the Internet, never mentioned all the problems their dog(s) were previously involved in.
Yes, we have more than one man's word. We have the police who investigated, conclusion the shooting was self-defense.
Of if she hadn't hired a psychotic nutjob to deliver her groceries.
No. That guy needs to be punished. Shooting the dog was completely uncalled for.
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