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Ukrainian involvement in Russia concert massacre?
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Posted on 03/23/2024 9:59:52 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Things that make you go, hmmmm.


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1 posted on 03/23/2024 9:59:52 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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They did try to make a bee-line to Ukraine right after the attack.


2 posted on 03/23/2024 10:02:45 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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So you posted nothing?


3 posted on 03/23/2024 10:03:02 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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I’m listening....


4 posted on 03/23/2024 10:03:27 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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They did try to make a bee-line to Ukraine right after the attack.

No matter how hard gluteusmaximus lies about it...

5 posted on 03/23/2024 10:05:19 AM PDT by kiryandil (what Odessa doink?)
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About time the Muscovites got a taste of their own medicine.


6 posted on 03/23/2024 10:05:28 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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I trust Biden, NATO, Ukraine and the U.N.


7 posted on 03/23/2024 10:05:35 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I trust Biden, NATO, Ukraine and the U.N.


8 posted on 03/23/2024 10:05:35 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Btw, what is a sidebar moderator?


9 posted on 03/23/2024 10:06:09 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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2/22/24 - Victoria Nuland vows to accelerate the asymmetric warfare.
3/22/24 - Hmm.
10 posted on 03/23/2024 10:11:30 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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“Ukrainian involvement in Russia concert massacre?”

Such as ? The Ukes would benefit nothing.

11 posted on 03/23/2024 10:12:01 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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It’s a person who eats resources with no substance and their own one line comment.


12 posted on 03/23/2024 10:12:40 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Due to the corrupt press we will never really know what happened. We’ll hear all kinds of stories but never have real confidence in what is true and what is propaganda.


13 posted on 03/23/2024 10:13:40 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Why? What would Ukraine stand to gain from that attack?

If it was something they intended to pull off in secret and blame someone else (like ISIS-K), what’s the benefit to them? It doesn’t affect Russia’s war effort against them, and only solidifies Russian support behind Putin.

And if it’s something they were to do openly or take credit for, the above applies, plus it provides justification for Russia to take harsher measures and /or be more reluctant to a negotiated end to hostilities.

Ukraine having a hand in this simply makes no sense to Ukraine itself. It’s all downside and no benefit. And carrying out such a thing without clear attribution simply allows Russia to control the narrative, which is still detrimental to Ukraine.

I rather suspect it really was ISIS-K, and Russia is spinning it to find an angle that applies to the current conflict. Russia (and previously the Soviet Union) have always been masters of realpolitik.

(Necessary FR discalimer- I say all the above as someone who despises both the Russian and Ukrainian governments as corrupt and not representative of their peoples. Not a fanboy of either Zelesnkyy or Putin. And no, I don’t think it a Russian false flag- it makes the Russian government look to fallible for that.)


14 posted on 03/23/2024 10:14:19 AM PDT by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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“They did try to make a bee-line to Ukraine right after the attack.”

So says Ruzzia.


15 posted on 03/23/2024 10:15:53 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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Added thought to my own above comment: if it was Ukraine, it would seriously imperil their aid from Western countries, which pretty much would mean losing the war.

Again, all downside and no benefits for Ukraine to have done this. And the above downside is catastrophic.

Just doesn’t make sense.


16 posted on 03/23/2024 10:16:03 AM PDT by verum ago (I figure some people must truly be in love, for only love can be so blind.)
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Like getting past Russian units on the Ukie border would be a cinch.


17 posted on 03/23/2024 10:16:12 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: verum ago
I rather suspect it really was ISIS-K, and Russia is spinning it to find an angle that applies to the current conflict. Russia (and previously the Soviet Union) have always been masters of realpolitik.

Makes sense. Putin is using this massacre to blame Ukraine.

18 posted on 03/23/2024 10:17:26 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: kiryandil; All

This explains it all :

Sleepy Putin dismissing the warnings of a terror attack by the west as blackmail,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cu8HO3GVgLU

Thus, Putin is the one who indirectly but clearly helped ISIS.


19 posted on 03/23/2024 10:17:35 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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That’s right. We can’t trust Russia, but we can trust the rotten corrupt Biden administration, NATO, the lying U.S. Media, the corrupt FBI, CIA, et al....


20 posted on 03/23/2024 10:18:50 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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