Posted on 03/20/2024 6:47:21 PM PDT by hardspunned
MOSCOW, March 20. /TASS/. Eliminating French military personnel that may appear in Ukraine would be a critical but not particularly difficult mission for the Russian Armed Forces, but for Paris such a humiliating defeat of its legions would be tantamount to being guillotined, Russian Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev said.
"Actually, for the success of our cause, it would be nice if the restless French dispatched a couple of regiments to ‘Banderaland.’ It would be very problematic to hide such a number of servicemen, so systematically eliminating them would not be the most difficult task, but surely the most important one. But, just think of the beneficial knock-on effect!" he wrote on his Telegram channel.
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Just a friendly reminder, Russia has spent the last two years failing to eliminate the AFU, while claiming to have wiped it out at least three times over. Given that, why trust anything Moscow says?
French soldiers are damned good and always have been. It’s not right to slander them. In WWI they fought to complete destruction. 880k Brits died and we never hear the end of Flanders Fields, and poppy displays etc. Meanwhile France had 1,186,000. Not many white flags at Verdun.
In WWII, in the 6 week battle for France, they had more dead than we did in all of Vietnam...around 70k. They killed 27k Germans and wounded 111k.
The Brits fled the battlefield. The Brits surrendered to a Jap force at Singapore that was a 3rd of their size.
And today, it’s not even close that the French Army is the most powerful in Europe except for Turkey. The Brits pale in comparison, the Germans are a complete joke.
So French soldiers are well equipped and no joke.
That said, it’s a real head shaker that with the history of French soldiers invading Russia, and with their serious problems at home, they want to pick a fight with Russia. Just nuts. France cannot win against Russia without attacking inside Russia, and that would get them hit in France.
It’s even crazier to think of Germans, sending Panzers to Ukraine, and discussing attacking Crimea and the Kerch bridge.
All of Europe, encouraged by Sodom-on-the-Potomac has lost it’s mind.
The Vietnamese kicked their @$$es in the late '70s.
And Ukraine is not?Ukraine is not... led by a KGB agent that time forgot.
You need to see my post #22.
See post 22 for more of what you said.
I don’t think the French troops would ever see the battlefield. The Russians can reach out and touch them anywhere in Ukraine once they’ve crossed the border. I think that’s where they’d be attacked.
You make the point many are missing here. The Russians will know and have them targeted the minute they cross the border. I’m sure the French special ops troops in that hotel were top of the line. It’s hard to use your fighting skills against a hypersonic missile. A horrific barrage of missiles the first day with what could be collected on the way back France the second is what I’d expect.
Battle hardened?
Like us, they've spent much of the past two decades fighting against sandal-wearing goat herders carrying AK-47s.
Like us, it's been a long, long time since they engaged in ground combat against a modern, mechanized army capable of deploying forward artillery and air support.
Exactly. And it’s a bad corner for them. Anything they do to attack Russia, inside Russia, opens up France itself for direct attacks. Article V doesn’t kick in because France would have launched the attack that got them hit back.
And for extra fun, fight now the new Government in Niger is tearing up the post colonial agreements with France and a few other African former French colonies are doing the same. That will hurt France badly economically.
Between Farmer revolts, Islamists and African migrants raising hell across the country, and the loss of it’s Uranium supply in Niger and loss of tribute/taxes from it’s former colonies, France cannot support a war in Ukraine.
Yes, to this day, former French colonies are forced by “end of colonialism” treaties to pay hefty reparations taxes to France annually. The logic was that those former colonies owe them for the roads, dams, buildings, railroads etc that France built when they were in charge. France also has legal first right to natural resource exploitation, military associations, new projects in those nations etc. The African colonies are abrogating those treaties and say that time is ending.
France either takes a huge hit, or uses force in Africa.
Lots of moving parts out there. France may send a few technicians to Ukraine, but they won’t commit front line troops in any meaningful way.
[You make the point many are missing here. The Russians will know and have them targeted the minute they cross the border. I’m sure the French special ops troops in that hotel were top of the line. It’s hard to use your fighting skills against a hypersonic missile. A horrific barrage of missiles the first day with what could be collected on the way back France the second is what I’d expect.]
And let us not forget that if it wasn't for France during the American Revolution, we would still be a British Colony.
“Sorry, but I have no faith in the people running our military today. They’ve made it the laughing stock of the world.”
Yes, our troops are very experienced and very techie. America has a huge amount of war experience. But it would be foolish to conclude China would be no match for the US Military. Their troops look hard, tough and disciplined. They are a high IQ people and build a lot of good equipment.
They would be a hell of a lot harder to deal with than the Taliban or middle easterners.
True. I went to Yorktown last year. It was damn near a French Army and Naval battlefield.
[Battle hardened?
Like us, they’ve spent much of the past two decades fighting against sandal-wearing goat herders carrying AK-47s.
Like us, it’s been a long, long time since they engaged in ground combat against a modern, mechanized army capable of deploying forward artillery and air support.]
Well, let's hope they never have to go to war against each other.
Regarding WWI, my great-uncle served with the Canadian Expeditionary Forces, and was killed in France two months before the Armistice. He's buried in France in a British Military Cemetery.
The French did a great job in Vietnam didn't they, just as good a job as the British did in India with their colonization.
Russia is so vast that no country will ever be able to conquer it all. Hitler found that out when he went there to take control of Russia's oil fields, and his stupidity ended with making Germany dependent on Russian energy for decades, and they still haven't completely cut the cord.
There are many French and other NATO specialists doing the tasks you spoke of in Ukraine already. What Macron is threatening to send and make a spectacle of their arrival is a unit of uniformed French troops. It would make no difference how they were to be deployed. They would be a unit, in a very limited area on arrival. That’s where most of them would die. A unit of 2000 troops, a barrage of ten, twenty, whatever it would take of hypersonic missiles. Promises made, promises kept. Why on earth wouldn’t Putin take them out immediately? Hopefully, we never find out.
One of my ancestors was at "The Siege of York" with a militia company, he spoke French and translated for Washington's troops.
French Toast!
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