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They Rarely Ask for Pain Pills Now
MEDPAGE TODAY ^ | March 5, 2024 | Edwin Leap, MD

Posted on 03/05/2024 1:39:49 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Codeflier
Tramadol is the most worthless painkiller on the market

I dunno. I had heart surgery in June, 2020, during the height of the Covid hysteria. I was out of work for about five weeks, and in a lot of pain initially. I took Tramadol daily for almost a month, and it mostly worked. I had a prescription for oxycodone, and about 14 doses. I only took it once, when I was in too much pain to fall asleep. I thought tramadol made me feel sick most of the time, no appetite, but it did control my pain. I think between hip replacement and heart surgery, I have had two prescriptions, about 20 doses of oxycodone, and taken one, but it was effective.

I honestly do not understand the appeal of narcotics, tramadol made me feel sick all the time and I could not wait to be off it.

21 posted on 03/05/2024 2:11:31 PM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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You know you have a real serious injury when the doctor prescribes opioids to get you through the first weeks of PT after you’ve healed over 6 weeks post op.


22 posted on 03/05/2024 2:11:35 PM PST by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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To: nickcarraway

People should be able to take anything for pain that they want to.

I see nothing in my copy of the Constitution that says anything about the government regulating what we put in our bodies.


23 posted on 03/05/2024 2:13:42 PM PST by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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To: RummyChick

Chicago article about Gas station heroin. You can get it online and in Illinois

https://abc7chicago.com/tianeptine-gas-station-heroin-illinois-poison-center-opioids/14477807/


24 posted on 03/05/2024 2:14:19 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: nickcarraway

Re: “ We are in the throes of a horrible epidemic of illicit drugs. “

We have always been in a horrible epidemic of illicit drugs. Heroin, cocaine, crack, meth, ( this was a big deal when I was practicing), and now fentanyl. Who knows what’s next?


25 posted on 03/05/2024 2:14:58 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: dware

I keep a small bottle of Jack Daniels for use after a bad day at the dentist. A couple of shots and I am out.


26 posted on 03/05/2024 2:16:03 PM PST by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: RummyChick

gas station heroin has been recalled
https://www.molllawgroup.com/blog/gas-station-heroin-has-been-recalled/


27 posted on 03/05/2024 2:18:18 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Clinical Annotation for rs1799971 (OPRM1); tianeptine; Depressive Disorder, Major and suicidal ideation (level 3 Toxicity)

https://www.pharmgkb.org/clinicalAnnotation/1450935171


28 posted on 03/05/2024 2:21:59 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Republican in occupied CA

People should be able to take anything for pain that they want to.
I see nothing in my copy of the Constitution that says anything about the government regulating what we put in our bodies.


I agree, although keyboard tough guys say it’s just because you’re weak, not powerful blowhards like them.


29 posted on 03/05/2024 2:27:39 PM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: RummyChick

LOL....sheesh...yep...another drug that my genes have a problem with. Anyone that has to take risky drugs should have a full genome test just so you know what to look out for like this:

“AA Patients with the AA genotype may be at an increased risk of developing treatment emergent suicidal ideation (TESI) when treated with tianeptine as compared to patients with the AG or GG genotypes. Other genetic and clinical factors may also affect suicidal ideation in patients.”


30 posted on 03/05/2024 2:29:27 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

btw, when looking at your DNA sometimes you really have to jump through hoops. I have so many variants from that gene that it was easier to look at 23andme for this gene than looking at Nebula who did my whole genome test ....and then I verified it with nebula for accuracy


31 posted on 03/05/2024 2:32:40 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: Codeflier

Perfectly stated. So sorry about your mother.


32 posted on 03/05/2024 2:33:54 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!)
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To: dware

...also keep a bullet handy so you have something to bite down on.


33 posted on 03/05/2024 2:34:10 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: RummyChick
No Doctor is going to prescribe that for me. Again, they are freaked out about addiction.

More specifically they are freaked out about possibly losing their licenses to practice. Check your state's list of physicians who have had their licenses revoked and the reasons for those revocations. It will usually be something to do with writing inappropriate prescriptions for addictive drugs.

34 posted on 03/05/2024 2:35:55 PM PST by TChad
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To: nickcarraway

I live with pain daily as do many people and on a good day 4 out of 10. I refuse to take any opioids even though it’s offered about anytime I go to orthopedics. Had to sign a refusal to take them at an emergency room visit last year after a complex torn meniscus knee issue. Bad back, both shoulders shot with massive rotator cuff tears and a couple ibuprofen is what I take and that’s usually every other day. Wife and I take no prescription drugs at all and we hit 70 this year.

So I limp, hurt, takes awhile to get moving, sleep sucks but eventually I get 1 or 2 days of good sleep and get caught up. Still hunt, hike, fish, ride the Harley, work on my cars, do yard and work, maintain the house and refuse to give up.

You deal with pain you don’t prescribe it away. Nobody makes you take opioids, fentanyl or any other drug, it’s all self choice.

That being said every now and then a few good bourbons or whiskeys helps but it’s not crutch for pain.


35 posted on 03/05/2024 2:36:02 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: TChad

when you have verifiable genetic proof that all those safe drugs dont work...and verifiable imaging that says you have a problem that is causing pain ...it should be malpractice to make a patient live in so much pain they contemplate suicide.

What Eagle Syndrome patients go through in mind boggling. And yes, the pain can be just as bad as cancer pain. Thankfully not for me yet.


36 posted on 03/05/2024 2:44:15 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: nickcarraway

I actually blame the Insurance Companies for the people that got or get addicted to pain meds legally prescribed by their doctor. Sometimes you have no choice in the matter because the pain is so severe for a long time.

In 1979 after a bad motorcycle accident my doctors and I decided me being addicted to Percodan(yesterdays oxycontin) was the only course of action, at the end of 3 months I was taking 50 a day! and then it was time for my 3 week stay at the hospital for my surgery, but the First Week was to go Through Managed Withdrawls under doctors care in a Hospital Bed. This was actually planned from the beginning, but this is when doctors were allowed to practice medicine without needing approval from insurance companies.


37 posted on 03/05/2024 2:45:16 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: RummyChick
how many medical professionals coming by this thread can even recognize what is wrong in this pic and how to treat it and recognize the variety of damage it can cause

38 posted on 03/05/2024 2:54:46 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: nickcarraway

I retired after 46 years of active practice as a PA. I’ve had a lot of problems with osteoarthritis and injures resulting in four joint replacements and other assorted surgeries. I have taken lots of opioids. I rarely take them any more. I’d rather suffer the pain than the constipation they cause. That said, when a patient was suffering severe pain I did not hesitate to order opioids because nothing works better. Our bodies have built-in opioid receptors. Gee, how did those get there? They sure didn’t’ come from the DEA!


39 posted on 03/05/2024 2:56:35 PM PST by 43north (America doesn't need an election. We need an exorcism.)
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To: nickcarraway

Now the pendulum swings and they overreact to the other direction. You’re going to see people being told to do meditation, heating pad, etc. to deal with pain. When there’s an easily available product that could help them. All because of the Sackler family and DC.


40 posted on 03/05/2024 2:57:14 PM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI)
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