Posted on 02/04/2024 3:29:14 PM PST by nickcarraway
Japan's Moon lander ended up on its nose when it made its historic touchdown on the lunar surface. A US lunar lander has "no chance" of making a soft landing on the Moon due to a fuel leak.
We've set foot on the Moon multiple times. So why all the recent mission failures?
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10 to 1 Boeing’s troubles are due to MBAs with no technical chops running the game, not due to any deficit in today’s engineers. It’s an old, old story. Tech company gets big, and bean counters shove people with actual engineering and product development skills to the side, with predictable results.
Was gonna say that. When did the UK land on the moon?
Boeing had Nikki Haley on the Board of Directors.
They gave her all the tough engineering and project management issues.
She told the workers if they did not perform better she would assassinate them all.
Lol.
LOL.
or we’ve never been to the moon which would explain why we haven’t been back....don’t you know that technology goes backward?....that what was apparently accomplished 50 yrs ago is just too hard to do today....
White guys?
Everyone knows it was strong black women who got us to the moon! They even made a movie about it.
I’m guessing BBC means ‘humanity,’ by the ‘we.’ From a simple cost perspective, I’d say we’ve gotten better.
Both the original two players in the Moon race, the US and the Soviet Union had some significant failures.
The Apollo program had 32 total missions, and 6 successful landings. Corrected for inflation, it cost about $200 billion dollars, required a national effort, and development of new technologies.
The Japanese mission that ended up upside-down (but still somewhat functional) cost $120 million.
Anyone want to bet they’ll fail twice in a row?
The Indians just put a mission down successfully with a lander and a rover, and also got their propulsion module back to Earth orbit where it remains making observations with onboard instruments. That mission cost something like $90 million (it was supposed to be more like $75 but had overruns).
Anyone here doubt SpaceX could do it pretty easily if they cared to?
We’re in an era where it costs less to send a rover to the moon than it takes to buy an Airbus 320. Or buy 5% of a destroyer for that matter.
Heck, Wikipedia has a list of over 100 films that have lost more money than Chandrayaan-3 cost.
You need a lot of fuel to land on the moon. No atmosphere to slow you down.
Gus Grissom tried to blow the whistle on the Apollo program and he was killed. The other astronauts got the message. Most of the won’t do interviews to this day, and will not swear on a Bible that they landed on the moon
I wonder that about some of the technology we use in everyday life.
I am not a STEM person, so I can’t even begin to get my head around how complex and difficult it is to pull off a lunar landing. It is kind of like Mark Twain’s comment about a dog that can walk on its back legs: the marvel is not that it’s done well, but that it’s done at all.
I remember reading a rumor that the Soviets attempted a lunar landing before we made it, and the spacecraft flew past the moon.
Space X has a manned lunar landing scheduled this year
People who ‘earn’ their jobs based on Kink, Kolor, or Kin tend to fail - their companies, their country and any concept of fairness or decency.
Yes.
Because they know so little they are afraid to act.
1) The missions now are unmanned. Too much reliance on automation and software and...
2) S#!t happens
More or less true. The Soviet Union achieved the first "soft landing" of an unmanned spacecraft on the surface of the moon in February 1966 (i.e., Luna 9). The U.S. accomplished the same thing (i.e., Surveyor 1) in June 1966.
But there were failures along the way with these unmanned controlled landings, particularly on the Soviet side. It's not all that easy to do. But it was accomplished, multiple times, decades ago, albeit (as you alluded to) with rather different technological resources.
Is there anything that fat, angry, black women cannot do?
Correction. Moved to 2025
I hope Space X can get it done—but I think it is a lot tougher than they think it is.
Elon Musk is about to face his biggest challenge—dead bodies on the moon are really bad public relations.
I go back to 286s. Didn’t own one but used them at work. First purchased PC I believe was a 486.
Yes it is incredible what NASA accomplished with the tools at their disposal.
With proper management and a real focus on engineering instead of politics NASA could still be pretty good.
Don’t discount moving HQ to ChIraq.
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