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Is America Already A Dead Country?
American Thinker ^ | 2 Feb, 2024 | Robin M. Itzler

Posted on 02/02/2024 4:04:35 AM PST by MtnClimber

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To: MtnClimber

I see Trump being elected, but the most important issue will be who Trump selects for his VP because for this Country to have a chance of surviving it is going to need at least 12 years to reverse what the worthless demonic Obozo has/is doing to America. Do not doubt me, Obozo is the wreaking ball and should be tried as a traitor. Ultimately, saving America is a people problem - the population must somehow grow up, return to God, and embrace patriotism, and our Constitutional Republic form of government. It’s a tall order I know, which says a lot about how much is on the line.


21 posted on 02/02/2024 4:58:38 AM PST by iontheball
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To: MtnClimber

Yes. It was a good movie to watch once. There are clues, in hindsight.

But, it is fatalistic to simply accept your own death.

I might have preferred the sequel, where Willis mercilessly tortures his killer from beyond the grave, for two hours.


22 posted on 02/02/2024 5:06:26 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: MtnClimber
The government collects every communication by every US citizen through their 5-Eyes partners.

The CIA,FBI and NSA spied on a Presidential candidate.

They then spied on the sitting President.

They created a bioweapon in a Chinese lab.

They released the bioweapon on the American people.

The ruling party encouraged millions of ghetto dwellers to riot and attack innocent people for 3 months.

They suspended the constitution, shut down businesses and locked people in their homes for months.

They have invited 10 million 3rd worlders into our country over the past 4 years.

They allow criminals to attack innocent people and throw innocent people in jail for defending themselves.

They allow people to tear down statues of Catholic saints and charge people with hate crimes for tearing down statues of satan.

....Yes the country is already dead. There is nothing that can fix it.

23 posted on 02/02/2024 5:09:21 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: MtnClimber

“But the truth of the matter is that if we don’t change the government in this next ‘24 election, this country is dead.”

Period... And even at that it will be a very small battle won in this war that will now take decades to win if even possible.

Everyone who thinks it will all get fixed if Trump is elected are all mistaken. It will be just a small short window of opportunity to fight even harder towards repairing it. Even if he is elected we will have to keep swinging and swinging and never relax or let up one bit. Reality is it will take at least a decade or more to actually put down these insane rabid dogs.


24 posted on 02/02/2024 5:10:47 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: MtnClimber
This thinking goes back to Obama. I think Ann Coulter first asked the question in 2014:

"If Obama were born in another country, had no love for this country, and had set out to destroy America, what would he be doing differently?"

25 posted on 02/02/2024 5:11:21 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The Truth is like a lion. You don't need to defend it. Let it loose and it will defend itself.)
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To: MtnClimber

We are living in a post-Constitution America. The leftist judiciary will be used to delay and tie up Trump and a GOP Congress. They did a great job doing it between 2017 - 2021. Roberts thinks such a view is illegitimate, and that is clear evidence why the leftist judiciary will not be overcome.

In addition, the administrative state will ignore / drag its feet on Trump administration proposals, plans etc and continue to work against him like they did between 2017 - 2021. The fastest way to reign them in is to cut every agency budget in half, and then actively eliminate some of them (like Education). Never happen even with a GOP Congress.

Our feral givernment is too big and too corrupt to succeed. There is no longer a connection between citizen-voters and the givernment. In addition, a critical mass of voters are purposely ignorant, trained to be that way by the media and our education system. The election system in major geographical areas (and its spreading) have been operated to maintain an illusion that the people vote in their representatives and POTUS. Trump might keep the Titanic afloat by putting more powerful sump pumps aboard it, but it will eventually sink.

Until all the “new rules” are used against the left, and carried out to their full logical conclusion - total destruction of the demonkkkrap party - will this country have a chance, just a chance, to re-discover itself. And that won’t happen for the above reasons.


26 posted on 02/02/2024 5:11:59 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: nitzy

The problem is that there no people dead.


27 posted on 02/02/2024 5:12:43 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: MtnClimber

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) All of the above


28 posted on 02/02/2024 5:14:47 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: iontheball

My statement of the fact you note is that the Trump administration will be but an upward blip on the continuous progressive negative slide graph


29 posted on 02/02/2024 5:16:37 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: iontheball
This is not a political problem to be solved.

”Politics is downstream from culture.” — Andrew Breitbart

30 posted on 02/02/2024 5:17:34 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: MtnClimber

I imagine there many red-diaper professors who are reconsidering the “movement” now that they’ve witnessed the consequences of Marxist academia. Too late. America is on a demographic and social media track that guarantees its destruction.


31 posted on 02/02/2024 5:17:59 AM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Openurmind

We’re not voting our way out of this.


32 posted on 02/02/2024 5:19:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber; ClearCase_guy
I hope I don’t have to pick between choice 1 or 2.

I completely disagree with you.

Either of those options would be preferable to the current situation.

Currently, they are able to abuse us, take away our rights, belittle our traditions, steal our heritage, destroy our children etc... all while acting as if they are the good guys and WE are the bad guys.

My philosophy is....If someone chooses to be evil, force them to be FULLY EVIL. Don't let them get away with half-measures. Don't allow them to insult and injure you daily while claiming the moral high ground.

Them them go "Third Reich" and see where the chips fall. At that point our normal reaction to the injustice won't be deemed an overreaction.

33 posted on 02/02/2024 5:19:48 AM PST by nitzy (I wonder if the telescreens in 1984 were first called "free Obamascreens")
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To: MtnClimber

I agree wholeheartedly. That’s where the root cause of the leftist drift is coming from.

What I see from the moderates in my family is they are concerned about day to day living; School, work, a new house to buy or sell. Etc

When they do think of politics they don’t look to deeply into things and watch the fake evening news. My daughter for example voted for Trump in 2016 but will never again because she is convinced the Jan 6. Was an insurrection.

Thats why I did, and still do want Desantis for our Nomination…sure Trump (apparently) has it now and I’ll vote for him. But the moderates won’t and I’d give our chances honestly 55% of losing to Biden again because of that.

Moderates get their inclination to look at things from a left perspective from education then fake news media just justifies their preconceived opinions.


34 posted on 02/02/2024 5:21:46 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: nitzy

Yes, we lost the culture war and an election will not change the unelected fascist state. It has already written protections for itself into law and judges will protect it.

Many of the ordinary people around the world do not want this, and when they vote for the “right wing”, it is only a temporary setback while the deep state in their country, or from another country, destroy the movement. Look at how many countries assisted with the Trump/Russia collusion hoax.

This is bigger than Washington DC, Trump or the education system.

This is a global takeover that already took place and we were asleep worrying about which celebrity did what and which team is winning. Bread and circuses wins.


35 posted on 02/02/2024 5:22:04 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: nitzy
....Yes the country is already dead. There is nothing that can fix it.

There is a solution, but nobody wants to face reality. We will NOT be voting our way out of this.

36 posted on 02/02/2024 5:22:35 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: MtnClimber

She’s just like the old gray mare. She aint what she used to be.


37 posted on 02/02/2024 5:22:59 AM PST by weezel
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To: Openurmind

Did America just wake up one morning and say, “Today is a great day to sterilize the kids. Don’t you think, honey?”

America is not dead. It is being ruthlessly exterminated.

A Trump victory would just be a setback to those doing the killing. Trump doesn’t have the taste for what could turn this around. He proved this by allowing himself to be hog-tied in his first term. I doubt he’s changed.

Don’t get me wrong. I’ll take the setback, at this point. It’s all we’ve got.


38 posted on 02/02/2024 5:23:11 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: srmanuel

About 30 years ago I remember telling someone that I believed that America was heading for some sort of revolution. I said that I hoped it wouldn’t be too bloody and that we start over again with the same Constitution.

That was before the Tom Clancy book in which the entire Congress was wiped out in a Terrorist attack and Jack Ryan had the opportunity to do just that. Start from scratch.


39 posted on 02/02/2024 5:26:53 AM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Alberta's Child
I second your post. There is no political leader who can save a nation with such a corrupt culture. At this point the question is, who will survive it?
The answer in the past has always been the same; those who live in intact families. That means mother & father who have children and take care of their children. Everybody else dies off. Darwin is at play now.
40 posted on 02/02/2024 5:29:58 AM PST by Varda
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