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To: Responsibility2nd
So the Constitution was amended (14th) to help redefine what NBC really means.

No it wasn't. It was amended to give citizenship to slaves, who even though they were born here, were not regarded as "citizens", and therefore your English law theory is incorrect.

The purpose of the 14th was to protect freed slaves by giving them the rights of citizens. It had nothing to do with any desire to redefine "natural born citizen."

The 14th amendment does not mention "natural born citizen" anywhere in it, and the people debating it would have laughed at the idea that slaves would be "natural born citizens."

They called the 14th amendment a naturalization law, which it was.

In Obama's case there were 226 challenges brought about challenging his status as Natural Born Citizen. None. Zero. Nada were even admitted or heard before any court.

Yeah, the courts are completely screwed up. We see more evidence of that every day. Almost all those cases you mentioned were dismissed for lack of "standing", and occasionally they would throw in a "laches" dodge.

None of these cases ever got to the stage where you actually produce evidence. These were just more arrogant sh*thead judges refusing to do anything, same way they did with vote fraud in 2020.

Historians have found that using the strictest sense of of defining a Natural Born Citizen means that even both parents must not only be citizens, but they must have been born in this country as well.

That is incorrect. The parents must be citizens and that is all. And to be honest, only the father had to be a citizen. For most of this nation's existence, the status of the wife didn't matter. She was considered as American when she married an American.

Women couldn't pass on citizenship until the Cable act of 1922.

A fact that disqualifies Donald Trump himself since his mother was born in Scotland.

Absolutely irrelevant for the reasons I mentioned above. Nobody cared about the wives. Only the Father's mattered.

I wish these racists would leave this matter alone. They are embarrasing themselves and Free Republic.

Racists? You are barking up the wrong tree. Nobody gives a sh*t that Obama was black. We cared that he was another @$$hole Democrat who would wreck the country (which he did) and take us in a direction the nation very badly did not need to go. (which he did.)

If we could have disqualified Bill Clinton or Idiot Biden, we all would have loved to do it.

It's politics. We don't want *THEIR* side in power, and any excuse that can keep them away from it is a good enough reason to attack them.

Racists? Yes. The real reason they use the NBC clause as a smoke screen is to avoid brown foreign people.

You are full of sh*t. I don't want foreign white people either, especially the Swedes, the English, the Germans, the French. The Hungarians and the Poles wouldn't be so bad, because at least they still have some common sense, but Western Europe is now full of socialist idiots whom I don't want anywhere near power in this Nation.

126 posted on 01/20/2024 12:10:38 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Oh my. You've resorted to insults. That must mean you've won the argument.

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Good Day Sir

133 posted on 01/20/2024 12:41:03 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (A truth that’s told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: DiogenesLamp
None of these cases ever got to the stage where you actually produce evidence. These were just more arrogant sh*thead judges refusing to do anything, same way they did with vote fraud in 2020.

The initial filing could discuss that evidence and depending on the court include in the initial filing. Ultimately as you note these cases were defective for a variety of reasons..

And, here we are. There’s genuine disagreement re: NBC.

152 posted on 01/20/2024 6:43:20 PM PST by Fury
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