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Harvard president Claudine Gay is now accused of botching study that landed her major tenure at Stanford and refusing to share research with professors who questioned her thesis over 'logical inconsistencies'
Daily Mail ^ | 12/27/23 | Harriet Alexander

Posted on 12/27/2023 1:24:27 AM PST by Libloather

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To: bert

Anointed at birth also was Anita Hill.


I disagree there. Anita Hill is a self made woman. Of course, her biggest accomplishment was stabbing Clarence Thomas in the back. For that, she will be forever venerated by the Left.


41 posted on 12/27/2023 6:38:14 AM PST by rbg81
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To: rbg81

Anita was chosen and given privilege her whole life.

She got to DC and learned she was not what she thought she was


42 posted on 12/27/2023 6:40:42 AM PST by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Hamasci de is required in totalhe)
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To: ClearCase_guy

She actually was inconsistent. In one paper she showed one value for the statistic and standard error, in another different values. The second paper, probably the bogus one, indicates a significant decrease in white Democratic voter turnout when the Democrats offer a black candidate, the first one showed no significant effect, both “statics”, white voter turnout and standard error were supposedly analysis of the exact same election.

The original controversy arose in 2002 when other researchers asked to see the underlying data for the second paper. She used a somewhat exotic technique, which was not necessarily invalid or unreliable.

Since ballots are not (yet) marked with voter’s race, she used turnout in white precincts as a proxy for white voter turn out. Within limits one can make rough estimates of turnout based on these data. For instance, it is widely believed that black turnout for Barack Obama was significantly greater among black voters than in other elections where there was not a black (or at least Halfrican) candidate for president, based on turn out in black precincts nationwide.


43 posted on 12/27/2023 6:52:30 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: bert

Well, maybe you know more about her than I do.


44 posted on 12/27/2023 7:01:54 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Libloather

“Affirmative action” has made all credentials totally fake for black “scholars”.

Think of it as Gresham’s Law in action—for academia.


45 posted on 12/27/2023 7:05:46 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“black turnout for Barack Obama was significantly greater among black voters than in other elections”

All voting analysis has a critical buried assumption—no statistically significant cheating.

If that assumption is not correct the analysis crashes and burns.

Here in CT I am 100% certain that much of black “voting” in the major cities is fraud.


46 posted on 12/27/2023 7:08:33 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I believe that people asked to see her raw data and she refused.

That doesn’t prove that she made stuff up, but it is a common assumption that if you won’t share your data with anyone, then your data is fake.

It’s a bit of a “Change My Mind” moment, where she can win the game easily and absolutely change my mind — she just needs to show the raw data.

And just to be clear: I don’t matter. I don’t need to see her data. Changing my mind is not important. But there are researchers out there complaining that she won’t show the data. They matter.


47 posted on 12/27/2023 7:08:54 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: DAC21

The peer review concept was designed to weed out frauds.

The problem is that these days most of academia is fraudsters—so now we have fraudsters signing off on the work of other liars and cheats.


48 posted on 12/27/2023 7:13:50 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Libloather

Just another demonrat lying and cheating.


49 posted on 12/27/2023 7:18:57 AM PST by bgill
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To: ClearCase_guy
It's not just that she refused to show her data, as suspicious as that seems. She used the same election in two papers. In the first one every thing was fine, in second significant depression of white voter turnout. Researchers who asked to see her data in 2002, Michael C. Herron, Kenneth W. Shotts had an academic interest in the technique, and wanted to understand how she had applied it.

Logical Inconsistency in EI-Based Second-Stage Regressions

There is no evidence that their request was anything other than a good faith collegial inquiry, that may have resulted in constructive criticism, which while it might be embarrassing would not have necessarily caused a retraction of the paper, or accusations of fraud. It appears that Gay employed the technique in name only to mask the lack of evidence for her conclusions.

50 posted on 12/27/2023 7:32:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: cgbg

That addresses the validity of the underlying data. Anyone who does statical analysis needs to be aware of the underlying assumptions, granted, but increased voter turnout in black precincts in 2008 was almost certainly an indication of greater black voter turnout.


51 posted on 12/27/2023 7:39:01 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I guess I've been saying it in a clumsy fashion.

As you say:
It appears that Gay employed the technique in name only to mask the lack of evidence for her conclusions.

I'll accept that statement as better than what I was saying. I like it when you say she had a "lack of evidence for her conclusion".

52 posted on 12/27/2023 7:41:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Libloather

What is Biden waiting for, appoint her as Head of National Security.


53 posted on 12/27/2023 7:44:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

When you build statistical analysis on unreliable and unverifiable data what you have is...

a dumpster fire.


54 posted on 12/27/2023 7:55:10 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Libloather
Harvard should just admit that its highest and most valuable degree is in Wokeism. And admit that a politically correct name, gender plusrace provides favored nation status which outweighs many negative points.

Yet lowering standard is nothing new for Harvard.

In a Harvard Crimson article, noted conservative Harvard professor Harvey Mansfield contended that,

"Grade inflation got started … when professors raised the grades of students protesting the war in Vietnam..." "At that time, too, white professors, imbibing the spirit of the new policies of affirmative action, stopped giving low grades to black students, and to justify or conceal this, also stopped giving low grades to white students." The problem was essentially seen as the predominance of the notion of self-esteem, "in which the purpose of education is to make students feel capable and 'empowered,' and professors should hesitate to pass judgment on what students have learned." Such assertions resulted in no small controversy.

Harvard alumnus and author Ross Douthat attributed this problem partly to socioeconomic differences, and noted that "Harvard students are creatively lazy, gifted at working smarter rather than harder", being brilliant largely in their tactics "to achieve a maximal GPA in return for minimal effort." Few people who have taught at Harvard agree with Douthat's notions. - https://www.conservapedia.com/Harvard_University
55 posted on 12/27/2023 7:58:05 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Ahithophel
The claim is that having a Black representative in a district causes lower White voter turnout.

Yes, that is her claim in her words. If it were me, I would turn that question around to be less biased:

In a representative republic, do white voters feel represented by black House Representatives?

Based on how the first thing that black Representatives do is join the House Congressional Black Caucus, and seeing how the CBC has rejected the membership of Republican black Representatives, it is a fair question to ask if black Representatives are or are not agenda-driven more than white constituent driven, and turn out accordingly?

To me, it's not because white voters are racist, it's because black Representatives are agenda-focused, and that agenda does not include supporting white voters.

-PJ

56 posted on 12/27/2023 8:55:44 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
There is no evidence that their request was anything other than a good faith collegial inquiry...

The most basic tenet of scientific review (assuming political science IS science) is the ability to reproduce results by independent researches.

Refusing to release the underlying data is an overt attempt to prevent independent analysis for fear of not being able to (or knowing they won't be able to) reproduce the results.

-PJ

57 posted on 12/27/2023 9:03:49 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Political Junkie Too
”The most basic tenet of scientific review (assuming political science IS science) is the ability to reproduce results by independent researches.”

You saved me some typing.

Did the climate “hockey stick” inventor ever release his data?

58 posted on 12/27/2023 9:33:21 AM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell

I believe Steve McEntyre an early Mann critic and professional commercial econometrician got a couple of it. If I remember this right, he couldn’t reproduce Mann’s result at least in the form that Mann did.


59 posted on 12/27/2023 9:38:19 AM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Reily

Obama-nation. Pure effing garbage.


60 posted on 12/27/2023 9:40:14 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Clown World)
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