Posted on 12/22/2023 8:37:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux
Given the decades-long stigma associated with UAP, it seems that only a significant amount of credible evidence would convince normally cautious, risk-averse politicians, let alone a Senate majority leader, to level such a stunning accusation in public.
The underlying allegations, which the mainstream media have studiously and curiously avoided, are shocking.
Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) joined Schumer and a bipartisan group of four other senators to co-sponsor the UAP Disclosure Act. In a rare colloquy with Schumer on the Senate floor, Rounds doubled down with yet more remarkable commentary, noting that the UAP Disclosure Act originally included “a requirement…for the government to obtain any recovered UAP material or [“non-human“] biological remains that may have been provided to private entities in the past and thereby hidden from Congress and the American people.”
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, echoed Rounds’ extraordinary comments in a July interview. According to Rubio, “We have people that have very high clearances both today and in the past who did really important work for our government, or continue to do important work for the government, who have come forward with some claims about the U.S. having in the past recovered exotic materials, and then reverse-engineered those materials to make advances in our own defenses and technologies.”
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Moreover, as Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wisc.), a member of the House Intelligence Committee, stated in June, new protections enacted by Congress resulted in “all sorts of [UAP whistleblowers] coming out of the woodwork.” These individuals, Gallagher said, are telling congressional investigators that “they’ve been part of this or that [UAP] program,” resulting in “a variety of pretty intense conversations.”
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Can’t buy votes talking about flying saucers.
If there was a way to line their pockets off it, politicians would be all over the topic.
The media isn’t interested, the DOD, CIA, and military industrial establishment are stonewalling, and Congress, relying on whistleblowers pouring out of the woodword to testify before classified intel committees, is demanding transparency (at least by virtue of docs released to classified intel committee hearings).
When we ask the government to round up and deport illegal aliens, we’re not talking about illegal UFO’s.
Illegal UFO programs. Is that flying saucers from Mexico with illegal aliens?
They are the culprits.
For those unfamiliar with my views on this topic...
Imho the Senate has been briefed on decades of illegal treaties (passed and enforced without U.S. Senate consent in blatant violation of the Constitution).
They believe the claims of whistleblowers on this topic and they are taking it personally.
Who are the parties to these illegal treaties?
On the human side Deep State actors/some public officials, some private contractors.
On the other side—yup, aliens.
For those folks who don’t believe it is possible it does not matter what you believe.
The Senators are convinced it is real—and they want copies of the treaties and the names of those who signed them and continue to enforce them.
I would encourage everyone who is not familiar with the Davis/Wilson memo to get familiar with it—this is the real deal:
https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf
Notice that this is not from some obscure conspiracy web site—this document is a part of the Congressional Record.
A Mr. K addressed a joint session of congress, after which the issue of UAPs was dropped abruptly. Any questions to the Speaker on the press on the matter were met with a blank stare.
Since the CIA owns the MSM it’s not surprising there is no reporting. It’s the coverup every time that catches the Clown Agency with their pants down. It’s interesting that the guy who warned Trump that the Agency has six ways from Sunday to get you has now decided to take the Clowns to task on this one.
The Senate can’t even tie all of Hunter Biden’s bribes to Hunter Biden, let alone his father, and it’s all pretty much obvious to everyone what happened.
Do you really think the Senate has the power to find things that (if the even exist at all) are inherently designed not to be found, made by people who there is no record of?
Wow.
It is all about motivation.
The Senate can do amazing things if they get angry enough...
And got shot down by House Intel Committee and House Armed Services Committee chairmen (Turner and Rogers).
What the bloody ‘Ell is an “illegal” UFO program? Does such a search mean that there are legal ones?
This is looking like a sketch out of “Men in Black”.
I think it means a program that is not on the books and is funded by overstating the cost of other programs.
Yes. There are legal ones (see All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office). But their purpose in life seems to be to hide evidence from Congress and the public.
I know we tend to see things in political terms—left vs right, Democrats vs Republicans etc but in this particular case we have a different paradigm:
—The House vs The Senate
They do have institutional interests that are separate. Usually those are “inside baseball” and of little interest to outsiders.
This could be the rare exception to the rule.
To drill a little deeper:
House members have to face re-election every two years so they need lots of money to deter potential primary challenges as well as run campaigns.
Defense contractors can meet that need—and keep House members in line.
Senators have a little more running room with six year terms and state wide races and fundraising sources—and if they get mad enough at the defense contractors they can afford to say “no”.
Good point.
"Congress hunts for illegal UFO programs as the media shrug"
Just for the record...
Taxing and spending to build our national freeway system was unconstitutional imo. Same for NASA. Same for Obamacare. Same for Social Security and Medicare. Same for UFOs.
All the above, and much more, are based on stolen state powers and state revenues uniquely associated those powers, the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds stealing state revenues by means of unconstitutional federal taxes. (See below.)
The reason for unconstitutional federal taxing and spending is that migrant families escaping tyrants by moving to USA have never gotten a grip on the founders' idea of a constitutionally limited power federal government imo, misguided voters responsible for building up the unconstitutionally big federal government imo.
On one hand, we actually wouldn't be enjoying our modern conveniences in our young country without an unconstitutionally big federal government imo.
On the other other hand, instead of one-size-fits-all questionable federal government remedies and associated federal government "red tape" with the inevitable corruption, the states could probably be doing an even better job with the quality of life in the USA as the drafters of the Constitution had intended.
"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.
From related threads...
The remedy for corrupt, state power-stealing federal government is for Democratic and Republican Trump supporters to effectively "impeach and remove" ALL incumbent lawmakers by primarying them in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company (and others?).
The crook lawmakers that misguided voters keep reelecting for unknown reasons need to be replaced with patriots who will not only support hopeful Trump 47 to finish draining the swamp, but will also do the following. New lawmakers need to support Trump in leading the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by effectively "seceding" ALL the states from the unconstitutional big federal government by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).
Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for victim taxpayers of the unconstitutionally big federal government for having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“ If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
From the congressional record:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
(Again) “Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. If once they become inattetive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, judges and governors, shall all become wolves [emphasis added]. It seems to be the law of our general nature.” - Thomas Jefferson (Letter to Edward Carrington January 16, 1787)
Pelosi: "We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it." (non-FR; 6 sec.)
Democrats [and RINOs] Are Terrified Of An Educated And Informed Public (3.12.23)
In fact, consider that since one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the big, bad federal government to dictate peacetime domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service (most federal domestic policy actually based on stolen state powers imo), the worst problem that the country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of Trump-supporting freshman lawmakers is arguably that citizens that would get into the habit of lightheartedly questioning if the federal government has shutdown if they receive their mail a few days late.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.
Let's not allow ourselves to be fooled for third time in 2024 by the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments.
Finally, consider that corrupt political party and media fuss about "obsolete" electoral college is because the electoral college is the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from establishing a permanent puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.
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