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1 posted on 12/22/2023 8:37:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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2 posted on 12/22/2023 8:38:17 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Can’t buy votes talking about flying saucers.

If there was a way to line their pockets off it, politicians would be all over the topic.


3 posted on 12/22/2023 8:40:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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The media isn’t interested, the DOD, CIA, and military industrial establishment are stonewalling, and Congress, relying on whistleblowers pouring out of the woodword to testify before classified intel committees, is demanding transparency (at least by virtue of docs released to classified intel committee hearings).


4 posted on 12/22/2023 8:42:49 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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When we ask the government to round up and deport illegal aliens, we’re not talking about illegal UFO’s.


5 posted on 12/22/2023 8:43:09 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Illegal UFO programs. Is that flying saucers from Mexico with illegal aliens?


6 posted on 12/22/2023 8:45:10 AM PST by redcatcherb412
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To: RoosterRedux

For those unfamiliar with my views on this topic...

Imho the Senate has been briefed on decades of illegal treaties (passed and enforced without U.S. Senate consent in blatant violation of the Constitution).

They believe the claims of whistleblowers on this topic and they are taking it personally.

Who are the parties to these illegal treaties?

On the human side Deep State actors/some public officials, some private contractors.

On the other side—yup, aliens.

For those folks who don’t believe it is possible it does not matter what you believe.

The Senators are convinced it is real—and they want copies of the treaties and the names of those who signed them and continue to enforce them.

I would encourage everyone who is not familiar with the Davis/Wilson memo to get familiar with it—this is the real deal:

https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf

Notice that this is not from some obscure conspiracy web site—this document is a part of the Congressional Record.


8 posted on 12/22/2023 8:49:39 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Obey or get canceled.)
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To: RoosterRedux

A Mr. K addressed a joint session of congress, after which the issue of UAPs was dropped abruptly. Any questions to the Speaker on the press on the matter were met with a blank stare.


9 posted on 12/22/2023 8:55:48 AM PST by I-ambush (From the brightest star comes the blackest hole. You had so much to offer, why didya offer your sou?)
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Since the CIA owns the MSM it’s not surprising there is no reporting. It’s the coverup every time that catches the Clown Agency with their pants down. It’s interesting that the guy who warned Trump that the Agency has six ways from Sunday to get you has now decided to take the Clowns to task on this one.


10 posted on 12/22/2023 8:56:16 AM PST by iontheball
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What the bloody ‘Ell is an “illegal” UFO program? Does such a search mean that there are legal ones?

This is looking like a sketch out of “Men in Black”.


15 posted on 12/22/2023 9:04:48 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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Thank you for referencing that article RoosterRedux.

"Congress hunts for illegal UFO programs as the media shrug"


Just for the record...

Taxing and spending to build our national freeway system was unconstitutional imo. Same for NASA. Same for Obamacare. Same for Social Security and Medicare. Same for UFOs.

All the above, and much more, are based on stolen state powers and state revenues uniquely associated those powers, the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification feds stealing state revenues by means of unconstitutional federal taxes. (See below.)

The reason for unconstitutional federal taxing and spending is that migrant families escaping tyrants by moving to USA have never gotten a grip on the founders' idea of a constitutionally limited power federal government imo, misguided voters responsible for building up the unconstitutionally big federal government imo.

On one hand, we actually wouldn't be enjoying our modern conveniences in our young country without an unconstitutionally big federal government imo.

On the other other hand, instead of one-size-fits-all questionable federal government remedies and associated federal government "red tape" with the inevitable corruption, the states could probably be doing an even better job with the quality of life in the USA as the drafters of the Constitution had intended.

"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.

From related threads...

The remedy for corrupt, state power-stealing federal government is for Democratic and Republican Trump supporters to effectively "impeach and remove" ALL incumbent lawmakers by primarying them in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company (and others?).

The crook lawmakers that misguided voters keep reelecting for unknown reasons need to be replaced with patriots who will not only support hopeful Trump 47 to finish draining the swamp, but will also do the following. New lawmakers need to support Trump in leading the states to put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes by effectively "seceding" ALL the states from the unconstitutional big federal government by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).

Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for victim taxpayers of the unconstitutionally big federal government for having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.

In fact, consider that since one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the big, bad federal government to dictate peacetime domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service (most federal domestic policy actually based on stolen state powers imo), the worst problem that the country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of Trump-supporting freshman lawmakers is arguably that citizens that would get into the habit of lightheartedly questioning if the federal government has shutdown if they receive their mail a few days late.

The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.

Let's not allow ourselves to be fooled for third time in 2024 by the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments.

Finally, consider that corrupt political party and media fuss about "obsolete" electoral college is because the electoral college is the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from establishing a permanent puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.

20 posted on 12/22/2023 9:34:17 AM PST by Amendment10
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