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1 posted on 12/21/2023 7:08:12 PM PST by thecodont
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“One country has seen over 500 mass shootings in 2023 alone, while the other has had less than a handful over the past twenty years.”

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Most folks know exactly why but will not say it in public.

But they know...

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2 posted on 12/21/2023 7:30:54 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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No African American ‘Rats in CH?


3 posted on 12/21/2023 7:36:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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The swiss and americans both enjoy food as well. Americans seem to be much more obese. Perhaps all of this is related.
4 posted on 12/21/2023 7:38:06 PM PST by Theoria
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I think it proves a point I often try to make. It’s not about the guns. It’s about the culture.


6 posted on 12/21/2023 7:39:36 PM PST by sjmjax
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Americans and Swiss citizens have some of the highest rates of gun ownership in the world, but their gun cultures differ wildly. One country has seen over 500 mass shootings in 2023 alone, while the other has had less than a handful over the past twenty years

How many minorities do they have in Switzerland?

I've read articles that claimed if you removed the minority crimes from the US, we have a lower crime rate than any place in Europe.

8 posted on 12/21/2023 7:43:08 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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I once rented a Swiss car but couldn’t get the dang thing out of neutral.


12 posted on 12/21/2023 7:47:42 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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complete bs.

anyway, at a guess, our population .5 billion (counting illegals). swiss about .005 billion this we have .5 / .005 = 100x difference at the outset. meaning on population alone we ought to have about 100 for every one of their’s. after that we dice their lying statistics and i bet the homcides our population of law abiding, *citizen* gun owners is comparable or better than theirs.


14 posted on 12/21/2023 7:53:15 PM PST by dadfly
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How do you think all those holes got in the Swiss cheese.


15 posted on 12/21/2023 7:54:33 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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Be sure and watch this too:

Colion Noir debunks the Johnny Harris Swiss gun culture slobberfest.

(I took some editorial license with my title.)

16 posted on 12/21/2023 7:55:31 PM PST by Disambiguator
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Here an alternate view

Debunking the Viral Gun Control Propaganda: Why the Swiss Love Their Guns More Than Americans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf_aohjp7I0


19 posted on 12/21/2023 8:05:23 PM PST by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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The lack of diversity is their strength.


20 posted on 12/21/2023 8:06:01 PM PST by FLT-bird
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My Swedish Mauser (6MM Carbine) is one mighty fine weapon. It was $79 at Woolworths in 1985.


21 posted on 12/21/2023 8:07:33 PM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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Density of population in the urban cities is the answer.

Don’t expect the low IQ, impulse control to come up with it anytime soon.


23 posted on 12/21/2023 8:26:31 PM PST by Freest Republican (This space for rent)
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I didn’t watch the video, and maybe they cover it, but I’d be willing to bet they have gun safety and handling courses in Switzlerland as standard educational material.


24 posted on 12/21/2023 8:29:46 PM PST by TigersEye (Our Republic is under seige by globalist Marxists. Hold fast!)
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The guy in the video drove me nuts!
He kept his finger on the trigger!
He was very not knowledgeable about guns.
He didn’t hold them right and not good muzzle control.
At least he tried to be honest about it and not be some crazed idiot like Piers Morgan.

The big difference is the Swiss are a fairly homogeneous culture that identify and deal with the problem members of society quickly.
USA has all sorts of different cultures and thanks to that we cannot under, our laws deal with problems.
Our biggest problem is the Democrat party.
Like many have said if you factor out one segment of the Democrats, our gun crime rate would be less than most every European country.


26 posted on 12/21/2023 8:38:46 PM PST by rellic
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In Switzerland, they even have a gun range where shooters fire over a highway (the Brünnlisau shooting range)

https://www.neatorama.com/2021/10/19/The-Shooting-Range-that-Crosses-a-Highway/



27 posted on 12/21/2023 8:43:01 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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“To understand why there’s such a stark difference between these two countries’ gun culture”

Idiots, Switzerland does not have inner cities full of low-IQ pavement apes. They may not drug up mental cases, dunno about that one.


28 posted on 12/21/2023 8:56:14 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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No ummmm.....”diversity”


29 posted on 12/21/2023 9:04:22 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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https://davekopel.org/2A/Foreign/swiss-and-their-guns.html

While Switzerland is clear proof that guns are not in themselves “daemons” (as one Denver priest recently claimed), Switzerland does not by itself prove the ease against gun control in America. Indeed, author Clinard argues that strict gun controls are necessary in the U.S.

Clinard’s argument cannot be dismissed out of hand. After all, few readers of this magazine would want America to adopt the lenient criminal sentencing practices of Switzerland. Opponents of lenient sentencing would argue, correctly, that America does not have the stable, integrated community structures of Switzerland. Thus, the American government must take a more coercive, authoritarian role in controlling prisoners, to make up for the lack of community controls.

The same point might be made about guns. Although guns are more available to the Swiss, Swiss gun culture is more authoritarian than America’s. Gun ownership is a mandatory community duty, not a matter of individual free choice. In Switzerland, defence of the nation is not a job for professional soldiers or for people who join the army to learn technical skills for civilian jobs. Defence of the nation is the responsibility of every male citizen.

Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation’s crime rate. Young adults in Washington, D.C., are subject to strict gun control, but no social control, and they commit a staggering amount of armed crime. Young adults in Zurich are subject to minimal gun control, but strict social control, and they commit almost no crime.

America-with its traditions of individual liberty-cannot import Switzerland’s culture of social control. Teenagers, women, and almost everyone else have more freedom in America than in Switzerland.


31 posted on 12/21/2023 9:21:39 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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“500 mass shootings” is a false fact. Break the 500 down to every individual mass shooter and the answer is quite clear. Nobody wants to go there even with irrefutable facts.


33 posted on 12/21/2023 9:33:33 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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