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Enough With The ‘All-Female Crew Caused The P-8 Crash’ Nonsense
The Aviationist ^ | 2023/11/27 | David Cenciotti

Posted on 12/14/2023 8:05:03 PM PST by traumer

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PHNG 210019Z COR 07014G21KT 1 1/2SM -RA BR SCT018 BKN026 OVC035 25/22 A2995 RMK A02 SFC VIS 4 VIS SW 1 1/2SM P0000 T02500222 COR 0046
PHNG 202357Z 06010G19KT 1SM -RA FEW007 OVC016 24/ A2995 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 1 3/4 SLP135 P0010 60012 T0244 10267 20239 57015
PHNG 202346Z 06014G22KT 1SM RA SCT008 BKN014 OVC022 24/ A2995 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 1 1/4 P0007 T0239 $

They landed on RW 22. Almost a direct tailwind. 7700 is not that long of a runway. I’ll see if I can hunt down 737-700 wet runway data. My guess is the runway required was greater than what they had. It’s not to tough to figure out.


61 posted on 12/14/2023 11:48:48 PM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: JAKraig
That being said there are plenty of men who have even worse accidents than these women.

There is no reason to bring John McCain into this conversation. Right now, he is crashing jets in hell.
62 posted on 12/15/2023 12:48:16 AM PST by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm.)
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To: traumer

Ever been a passenger with a woman driver?

🆘


63 posted on 12/15/2023 12:48:54 AM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by 🙏🙏 the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite prayer warriors. 10.5.6.5)
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To: Widget Jr
Are you implying most airplane accidents are by all male crews?
That's introducing real life into the thread!


If 90%+ of all flight crews are male, then of course most accidents will be by a male crew. Until we have enough female flight crews allowed the opportunity to dump their planes, we won't have enough statistical data to make a comparison. Therefore, your snark is premature.
64 posted on 12/15/2023 12:50:34 AM PST by fr_freak (So foul a sky clears not without a storm.)
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To: traumer

Methinks the author protests too much and has his panties in a bunch.


65 posted on 12/15/2023 2:26:31 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: All

I blame the patriarchy and white colonial oppression. We cannot overlook the obvious role of climate change, and the ever-present threat of a Donald Trump dictatorship. Putin is another factor. I think the word is intersectional (even if I have no clue why).

Well listen, it happened near Seattle, you have to humor people, we’re dealing with very progressive people here. You gotta speaka the lingo.


66 posted on 12/15/2023 2:32:05 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: Peter ODonnell

Or hawaii, the birthplace of the esteemed for er pResident, or so he says. Not like a leftist politician would lie or anything. So it’s even more progressive, people from Seattle in hawaii, that is uber progressive. I guess uber progressive is just a nicer way of saying over shot (the runway).


67 posted on 12/15/2023 2:35:53 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: All

They should have learned their lesson when McAuliffe blew-up the space shuttle.


68 posted on 12/15/2023 2:39:20 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Jonty30

“Civilian planes is a different ballgame than military jets, because the stress isnt’ there.”
So, you believe there’s no stress in flying a commercial flight with 200 souls aboard?


69 posted on 12/15/2023 2:54:12 AM PST by Fireone (Who killed Obama's chef?)
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To: Fireone

Not the same stress or amount, no.
How often do jumbo jets get attacked midflight?


70 posted on 12/15/2023 2:58:05 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Gaffer

Kind of fun to track it in orbit with binoculars.

https://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=58229

ISS TOOL BAG is a NASA tool bag that was accidentally dropped by an astronaut on Nov 1, 2023 during a spacewalk activity.


71 posted on 12/15/2023 3:38:48 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

When crews were all male there were standards. Those standards put the best available into the seats. Those standards allowed post accident investigators to arrive at a conclusion as to what happened.Those standard have not only been dumbed down for purely political purposes but entirely thrown out when “necessary.” Witness women committing automatic fails on their flight test and being certified nonetheless. It just goes to show you how effective constant propaganda and bullshit are that any of this even need be pointed out.


72 posted on 12/15/2023 3:42:03 AM PST by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: Jonty30

“Civilian planes is [sic] a different ballgame than military jets...”
Just remember that next time you land a 747.


73 posted on 12/15/2023 3:43:31 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buacharch)
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To: traumer
The author of the article about the incident provoking comments and writes “ We don’t know anything.”

He should stop there, not trying to rule out a diversity based accident until all the facts are known. The author was a 2nd Lieutenant in the Italian Air Force and is a private pilot, so he has some experience in the field, but confesses “ We don’t know anything” so he should just stop until we do know something.
74 posted on 12/15/2023 3:48:17 AM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: .44 Special

They can say that when their 747 is under fire in a warzone.


75 posted on 12/15/2023 3:53:56 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: TalBlack

Th government is catering to everyone but its normal majority.


76 posted on 12/15/2023 4:12:31 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: traumer

This another speculation response without fact or evidence. Weather was an issue, known fact, landing direction was the opposite of most KBay landings, not unheard of but opposite most. Regardless, a pilot knows where to put the AC down. Maybe they put it down right, maybe brake issues, maybe, maybe, maybe.

I’ll wait for the conclusion of the investigation.


77 posted on 12/15/2023 4:25:52 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: TalBlack
You are telling me that the problem with women crews is their male trainers.
Because male crews have accidents too.

Unless you want to ignore reality, then there is no use pointing that out to you.

78 posted on 12/15/2023 4:35:23 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: DesertRhino

With Danika, it was all “Look at me I’m a woman race car driver.”

I don’t know much about Lia Block but Hailey Deegan has real potential. She seems to be awed and overjoyed that she gets to drive race cars. Her attitude seems more like “Cool. I’m a race car driver who happens to be female.”


79 posted on 12/15/2023 5:37:42 AM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Jonty30

“Men are more risky drivers, that is true. “

You mean more risky than Karen driving with her knees while texting? I’ve seen it.


80 posted on 12/15/2023 6:46:57 AM PST by dljordan
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