[ought-six]

It’s up to the Ukrainian people to decide. If the Ukrainian people throw in the towel, then it’s over. Of course, there will be some who refuse to give up; and thus, the war will continue, “by other means.” In which case, I’d not want to be a Russian coming out of a bar, alone; or a car full of Russians stopped at a stop light; or...well, you get the picture.

[Reverend Wright]

They can try.

But there has already been population movements out of Ukraine in the millions.

And there will be more leaving as the Russians annex more territory.

A lot of people have assumed that the ethnic and language mix in Ukraine will determine where the ceasefire front line ends up.

But that isn’t a fixed characteristic because of the mass population movements.

I think it is more likely that terrain analysis and military defensibility will define the Russian boundary - because they know that NATO will be facing them right across the gray zone.

And they will accept whatever terrorism/insurgency happens. Because militarily defensible terrain is essential to national survival.

In that case the eventual boundary will be either the Dnieper, or something like Ternopil and the Seret River.

[JonPreston]

thus, the war will continue, “by other means.” In which case, I’d not want to be a Russian coming out of a bar, alone;

lol