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wgmalabama wrote: “They haven’t looked yet. I figured that would be your response. Yet we know adverse events are occurring due to the Vax and will continue to occur. Are you planning on going down with ship on this one? I can’t figure you out. I don’t think your a paid participant or an active Fed Gov employee. So I’m curious if you’re ever willing to be objective and see the Vax was worse than the disease. I guess we will see over time.”

That’s the only response possible at this time. The data doesn’t support anything else. And, no I’m not willing to admit the vaccine is worse than the disease. Almost seven million deaths from the disease and a few, a very few, deaths that can be attributed to the vaccine.

Too many are too eager to jump to the conclusion that all adverse reactions are due to the vaccine. The data simply doesn’t support that.

Quite frankly, this thread is typical of the hysterical and hyperbolic reaction to any information that might support the anti-vaccine agenda. As I’ve stated previously, this reaction is consistent with the historical response to vaccines dating back 400+ years. Conceptually, there is no difference from the reaction to this vaccine and the reaction to the small pox vaccine of the 1700s. Back then, the small pox vaccine was supposed to turn people into cows and contained bat feces. Now, the covid vaccines are supposed to change your DNA and are poisonous.

It’s not just the COVID vaccines. You have the same anti-vaccine choir singing the same old gospels they sang against the measles, the HPV, the MMR, and all the rest of the vaccines.

That said, I will change my mind if/when some credible information becomes available. It hasn’t yet.

Hope you get a chance to read the paper or a good and unbiased (in either direction) It is interesting. The data being discovered about the first effort on a new to humans, Vax tech.

I don’t care if anyone chooses to get the VidVax or not. I do care if data was not made public available to the point that informed consent was not possible. I also do not think the coercion was legal, moral or needed.

Once the data is out there, research isn’t rabbit holed, buried or even worse career ending then I will be willing to honestly say my mistake, I was wrong in my opinion based on the data I had at the time or say the mandated VidVax was a needless medical requirement and did more harm than good.

Unfortunately there are too many that are letting emotion run their thought process. I cannot tell if you are willing to collect data and be able to change your opinion.

Please do not label me anti-Vax. I am anti VidVax of the mRNA vectors. LNP or adenovirus vector. I may have been willing to take a more traditional version if it had more than 9 months of testing.

Anyway, just wondering if any of the 4 or 5 major changes from the original claims have or have started to get you to question the VidVax or its mandates/tracking/suspension of the constitution?

To lighten the topic:
What do you think about Bama jumping to the #4 spot. I’m not sure it was a good optics even though Bama had the most top 25 opponent team wins.

Will make for lots of people rooting against Bama and not sure this is one of the better teams Bama has in the Sabin era.

It’s not just the COVID vaccines. You have the same anti-vaccine choir singing the same old gospels they sang against the measles, the HPV, the MMR, and all the rest of the vaccines. As I’ve stated previously, this reaction is consistent with the historical response to vaccines dating back 400+ years. Conceptually, there is no difference from the reaction to this vaccine and the reaction to the small pox vaccine of the 1700s. Back then, the small pox vaccine was supposed to turn people into cows and contained bat feces. Now, the covid vaccines are supposed to change your DNA and are poisonous.

You're lying through your foul teeth.

Turning you into cows is absurd.

Nobody knew about original antigenic sin, IgM1-4, RNA transcription frame shifting, plasmids, ACE2receptors, or furin cleavage sites (to name a few).

Pfizer's own internal studies show fragments of foreign DNA, including intact 72 base pair fragments of SV40 promoter gene, being pulled into the nucleus:

https://expose-news.com/2023/12/06/plasmid-dna-in-pfizer-c19vaccine-enters-nucleus-of-cells/

And before you try to dismiss that as FUD based on ignorance, note that other groups are actively using mRNA enclosed in lipid nanoparticles explicitly to perform gene therapy, and they have advanced as far as experiments on mouse models:

In this case, mRNA-LNPs were capable of going for hematopoietic stem cells (HSCs)… …in order to produce a “gene editor” within the cell:

In another experiment, the researchers stuffed their nanoparticles with an mRNA sequence that produces a gene editor when it enters the cell. The editor targets a mutation in hemoglobin causing sickle cell disease.

Troll.