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Vanity: Two Questions about US Southern Border
Tangled ^ | Today | TUIB

Posted on 12/05/2023 8:23:27 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue

Thanks for your patience on the vanity. I want some educated feedback here.

I just heard an interview with a Democrat Congressman who said they would not vote "Yes" on a spending bill for Ukraine & Israel if funds for securing the US Southern Border were also part of the Bill. So, that begs the following questions:

1) Why would any US Congressman *not* want to secure the US Border? What is the downside? And....

2) How come no journalist EVER asks the above question of a Democrat politician?

These two things seem so obvious to me, that to miss asking these as a journalist is irresponsible.

Thoughts?


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1 posted on 12/05/2023 8:23:27 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Condensed and concise answers:

1) Votes (by harvesting, but eventually with amnesty)
2) Fear (You don’t get to keep your beat in Washtington if you alienate the powerful)


2 posted on 12/05/2023 8:25:41 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

They did something simalar with Reagan.
Reagan said it was the worst decision he ever made.


3 posted on 12/05/2023 8:30:06 AM PST by Zathras
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The political meaning of ‘secure the border’ is different than the rational meaning.

Pols/bureaucrats have used the phrase for decades. Seldom are they asked how/when or what does that mean?

It is a throwaway phrase to make it sound like they are doing something. Pols/bureaucrats make good shysters.


4 posted on 12/05/2023 8:36:03 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: TangledUpInBlue

** How come no journalist EVER asks the above question of a Democrat politician?**

Simple: bcause they are on the same communist globohomo team. Their team hates the God of the Bible and anyone who seeks to follow the God of the Bible, because the God of the Bible condemns every sin they love.


5 posted on 12/05/2023 8:36:18 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: z3n
Good points. I'll add some.

3) Lower cost labor class.

4) Historically the peoples we today call "Hispanics" have been easier for the political class to control than westerners. A lot of it has to do with our religious differences (majority Protestant English speakers don't believe in a clergy class that can control our access to God like majority Catholic Spanish speakers do). If you're used to believing an elite political class controls even your access to God then it's easier to accept a secular government also controlled by an elite political class.

6 posted on 12/05/2023 8:42:12 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Democrats are OUT TO DESTROY THIS GREAT COUNTRY.

VOTE DEMOCRATS OUT.


7 posted on 12/05/2023 8:47:25 AM PST by Pearfect
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To: Zuriel

I don’t disagree - but in this sense, that reasoning really doesn’t apply, does it? The Bible doesn’t address the political implications of the US border and how not enforcing a border impacts that debate.


8 posted on 12/05/2023 8:47:35 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

1) Why would any US Congressman *not* want to secure the US Border? What is the downside? And....

Many (and I DO mean MANY) who are currently elected to office, DO NOT BELIEVE in the principles found in the CONSTITUTION which they ALL swore to uphold. They therefore represent WE THE PEOPLE under FALSE PRETENSE.

There was a time in our political history when a few in the majority of true patriots recognized this small group of representatives for what they were... INFILTRATORS... DECEIVERS... TRAITORS... COMMUNISTS! and they sought to expose them and oust them from the halls of congress.

This movement and the fear behind it was known as “McCarthyism”. (Oddly enough we just somehow fired a communist speaker of the house named McCarthy)

Today, that same group of traitors is no longer a small one... but rather the MAJORITY.

This sad but unmistakable truth was NEVER more evident as it was on Jan 6th, 2021.

If Donald Trump accomplished ANYTHING of lasting significance, it was to show us just how far this nation has fallen, and to expose the illusion that WE THE PEOPLE are hardly in charge of anything... most importantly our elections.

2) How come no journalist EVER asks the above question of a Democrat politician?

Besides the government, the enemies of this country and the principles upon which it was founded UNDERSTAND that to overthrow this country from within, you must attack and control all 3 aspects of government, education, and MEDIA.

So many people today who truly understand what this nation is about are unfortunately SO DECEIVED and UNAWARE of how just how successful the enemy has been over so many decades.

We have been defeated by our own complacency


9 posted on 12/05/2023 9:12:28 AM PST by Safrguns
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Per Schumer, securing the US Southern Border is linked to amnesty for those already here. The devil's in the details.

I'll take a NO vote on that, any day.

10 posted on 12/05/2023 9:15:12 AM PST by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The stability of the nation is not just sure borders. The nation itself has to remain true to its foundation. The left hates the Constitution.


11 posted on 12/05/2023 9:21:43 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

If President Trump was for it, then they are against it.


12 posted on 12/05/2023 9:46:41 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.'s orbit.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

What border???


13 posted on 12/05/2023 10:24:20 AM PST by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Party of country. The democrats play the long game. They KNOW the welfare leeches waltzing across the border are a locked in voting bloc that will keep the party in power forever.

A smart republican border hawk would go down to brownsville and give the illegal invaders MAGA hats and put some on camera saying they can’t wait to vote for Trump. The border would be locked up like Obama’s history.


14 posted on 12/05/2023 12:25:09 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Because it's too easy to provide a seemingly reasonable response without addressing the actual issue ...

EX- "Securing the border" is a complicated issue with many moving parts. Much too complex to be simply tagged onto the end of any other funding bill. We need a comprehensive solution to the immigration issue which requires it's own bill.

Non-answer which makes them seem open to border reform without ever saying it.

15 posted on 12/05/2023 1:06:24 PM PST by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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