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To: BroJoeK
Ukrainian estimates of Russian daily losses vary daily, from just a few hundred to over 1,000 on some days.

If you believe anything coming from the Ukrainians or from the Biden regime about this war or anything, you're a moron.

All the Ukrainian claims are debunked by obituaries in Russian newspapers, by Russian social media accounts and satellite imagery.

Ukraine has suffered losses at an 8-1 ratio if not more.

99 posted on 12/06/2023 11:13:22 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan; UMCRevMom@aol.com
Kazan: "If you believe anything coming from the Ukrainians or from the Biden regime about this war or anything, you're a moron."

I'd say your word "moron" describes people who swallow and repeat Russian propaganda as if it had some inherent value.

Kazan: "All the Ukrainian claims are debunked by obituaries in Russian newspapers, by Russian social media accounts and satellite imagery.
Ukraine has suffered losses at an 8-1 ratio if not more."

Sure, according to Russian propaganda.
I've seen no independent sources verifying such claims.

Neither Russians nor Ukrainians publish their own casualty numbers, though both estimate the other's numbers.
Independent sources (i.e., US, UK, UN, NATO, Mediazona) put Russia's losses at roughly the same as Ukrainian estimates -- 300,000 killed or wounded.
They put Ukrainian losses, including civilians at circa 200,000.

I would note that confirmed (by Ukraine) civilian deaths in Mariupol are said to be around 2,500 even though some survivors have claimed totals up to 100,000.
Russia's "Butcher of Mariupol" explained that civilian casualties were caused by Ukrainian forces using civilians as human shields.

Is that something you want to believe, Kazan?

103 posted on 12/06/2023 10:59:59 PM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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