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2023 College Football Playoff Selection
College Football Playoff ^ | December 3, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 12/03/2023 9:27:52 AM PST by C19fan

1: Michigan 2: Washington 3: Texas 4: 'Bama

(Excerpt) Read more at collegefootballplayoff.com ...


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: college; football
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To: Jumper

There will be a lot of rebuilding in a lot of programs next year. NIL and the transfer portal has made that happen to almost every team. Must be good to be an athletic kid these days.


81 posted on 12/03/2023 11:19:16 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: nikos1121
Somebody had to get screwed. Bama probably had a tougher schedule and they did beat the NO 1 team handily.

Handily??

Difference in the game, besides the refs, were a missed FG and a fumble resulting in a FG. Six point swing. Bama won by three. That's not handily.

82 posted on 12/03/2023 11:19:25 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: dfwgator

Bama’s receiver pushed off to get open. No call. Totally a rip.


83 posted on 12/03/2023 11:19:56 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: FamiliarFace
FSU still 2-0 against the SEC this year.

This is more SEC bandwagonism, where the whole SEC takes credit for ONE TEAM (Alabama) being dominant over the past decade and a half.

Yes, Georgia was dominant in the past two years, but so was Clemson between 2016-2019.

The ACC was 6-4 against the SEC, so enough with this “the whole SEC is great!” crap.

84 posted on 12/03/2023 11:29:00 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: C19fan

The brilliant UCLA economist Armen Alchian often asserted that the best way to evaluate a policy decision, algorithm etc was to think about the precedent it sets for the future.

The signal sent by this decision re: FSU is that going forward teams that aspire to be chosen by this ridiculous committee for the Final 4 must not only win games and their conference, they must show off how they look, meaning better than those other guys. They must run up their scores, grandstand, etc to impress. Actual winning does not matter, though 1 loss is really the cutoff.

Oh, wait. There is no precedent, since this horrifically stupid format is finally ending in favor of a 12-team playoff. Ergo, there is no way to evaluate this methodology. It is no better or worse than any other. It does not matter who gets in and who does not. Letting in FSU or GA or even those low lifes Ohio State would be just as defensible.

Let’s hope that Michigan or Washington wins, because they surely belong. TX and AL are random among a pool that includes at five equally deserving teams.

In any sane world in which today’s rules matter going forward, FSU got robbed.


85 posted on 12/03/2023 11:32:55 AM PST by drellberg
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To: C19fan

C19fan wrote:
WOW!!! ‘Bama made it.

That’s cause they paid the most to the selection committee.

FSU got screwed.


86 posted on 12/03/2023 11:35:49 AM PST by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: ealgeone

That too.


87 posted on 12/03/2023 11:40:46 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FamiliarFace

Beating Chattanooga and Middle Tennessee and barely beating auburn and having close games with arkansas and Texas A&m and losing to Texas isn’t enough to put one in the national championship.
FSU beat rival Florida and Louisville without their starting qb. Not stellar, but it shows that the team as a whole is very good. Undefeated means a lot.
Alabama is very good....but the decision was probably made considering Alabama’s viewership drawing power and rich history. They certainly have a chance to win, but I would guess there are 2 or 3 other teams who did not make it who could also. Namely Georgia, Ohio State, and FSU.


88 posted on 12/03/2023 11:43:09 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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To: drellberg
The signal sent by this decision re: FSU is that going forward teams that aspire to be chosen by this ridiculous committee for the Final 4 must not only win games and their conference, they must show off how they look, meaning better than those other guys. They must run up their scores, grandstand, etc to impress. Actual winning does not matter, though 1 loss is really the cutoff.

I was under the impression that "style points" were a thing well before the CFP ever existed, so it's not like this is anything new.

FSU got screwed because their Heisman-level quarterback got injured. If Jordan Travis had played through the rest of the season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

89 posted on 12/03/2023 11:44:55 AM PST by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: C19fan

Who cares?


90 posted on 12/03/2023 11:45:39 AM PST by animal172 (This ain't the country I grew up in.)
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To: Fledermaus

FSU played some defense.


91 posted on 12/03/2023 11:47:59 AM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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To: FamiliarFace

How dare those players have economic freedom. They should be satisfied with a collection of useless classes that only lead to a General Studies degree. But they schedule well with practice and are taught by Dr. Friend of the Program. Gotta stay eligible.


92 posted on 12/03/2023 11:48:14 AM PST by wrcase
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To: redangus

True dat. I’m just surprised the writers didn’t include Notre Dame and USC.


93 posted on 12/03/2023 11:49:02 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: OKSooner

Yep.


94 posted on 12/03/2023 11:49:26 AM PST by DPMD (ua)
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To: GunRunner

I see six SEC grams ranked in the top 25 for SOS compared to one ACC team at this link. So it’s not just me.

http://powerrankingsguru.com/college-football/strength-of-schedule.php


95 posted on 12/03/2023 11:51:27 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Is that the guy with the impossibly big ears?


96 posted on 12/03/2023 11:53:49 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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To: wrcase

That is certainly the case now. In the olden days, some kids used to get an actual degree that meant something. That was a long freaking time ago though. Long ago.


97 posted on 12/03/2023 11:55:40 AM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Getready

There are several strength of schedule rankings out there, and FSU isn’t particularly impressive in some of them.

http://powerrankingsguru.com/college-football/strength-of-schedule.php

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/ranking/schedule-strength-by-other


98 posted on 12/03/2023 12:01:19 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: FamiliarFace
Again, the ACC was 6-4 against the SEC this year. “SEC Dominance” is based off of the other SEC teams riding Alabama’s coattails. Nothing today has any relevance to FSU joining the ACC in 1992.

Whatever the case is, there is no point in having a playoff if Power 5 undefeated conference champions aren’t going to play other Power 5 conference champions. FSU was robbed, and this was a political decision to appease the monied powers of the SEC.

More power to the committee for going where the money is and being bought off, but let’s not pretend this had anything to do with strength of schedule. That’s an excuse.

In the BCS system, Washington would play Michigan for the national title, and FSU would be excluded for the weakest schedule. That is a PROPER use of the SoS metric, not using it to have two 1-loss teams leapfrog an undefeated Power 5 conference champion.

It’s ridiculous and political; thankfully it’s all over next year.

99 posted on 12/03/2023 12:05:32 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Roadrunner383

**Between conference realignment, NIL, the transfer portal and the ridiculous coaches salaries, I’m finding it hard to get too excited about college football anymore (and I gave up on pro football a long time ago).**

I moved through the comments quickly to find one that shows how ridiculous the sport has become. I would add:

It’s the hype. And without the hype there is not near as much money in it.

Look at Iowa. The highest paid state employee is the hawkeyes head football coach. AFAIK, he hasn’t won national title, and hasn’t won the big 10 in almost 20 years. Yet the hawkeyes get hyped to the hilt, as though they have a rich history of championships.

And maybe they do, but not in football.


100 posted on 12/03/2023 12:07:02 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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