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To: Fresh Wind
Fresh Wind: "Even though Ukraine's number is trending upwards, it is hardly something to be proud of as they continually demand cash and weapons from the US and other countries and a meaningful audit of that assistance is not to be found."

There's no doubt that Ukraine started in the 1990s from a low number in the "Corruption Perceptions Index" -- third-world shit-hole level corruption.
Russia then scored higher than Ukraine, since then has bounced around and today's scores are about what they were over 20 years ago.
US scores in those days were 10% higher than they are today.

So, where US corruption has gotten worse, Russia's is about the same, Ukraine's has rather dramatically improved.
Yes, Ukraine is still far from standards of, say, Western Europe, but they are the only ones moving in the right direction.

And there's no evidence I've ever seen that any US aid to Ukraine was ever misused or corrupted.

Finally, all of this is irrelevant to the fact of Vlad the Invader's 100% illegal, immoral and unjustified "special military operations" against Ukraine.
If that is allowed to stand unopposed, then we can expect the world order as we've known it since 1945 to transform into something vastly less friendly to American interests, peace and prosperity.
Ukrainian "corruption" cannot be used to justify Vlad the Invader's insane empire building adventures.

113 posted on 11/20/2023 2:49:16 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK
And there's no evidence I've ever seen that any US aid to Ukraine was ever misused or corrupted.

About all you can see is the US government giving lip service to the idea of auditing the disposition of tax money and material going to Ukraine. And you can count on the democRats and MSM keeping anything negative well hidden from public view.

It's tempting to say that US corruption has nothing to do with Ukraine, but we know that's not the case, considering Biden's crooked deal to stop the Burisma investigation involving his crackhead son.

I have to agree with Trump when he says that the Russian invasion would not have happened if he was still president. A weak and feckless US administration has negative impacts worldwide as our enemies and competitors see opportunities galore, and they know that Biden and his cronies are literally for sale.

Corruption on one side emboldens corruption on the other side.

114 posted on 11/20/2023 5:25:46 AM PST by Fresh Wind (George Soros on assisting with the Holocaust: "That's when my character was made")
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