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Secret Service Agent Who Witnessed JFK Assassination Breaks Silence After 60 Years
Vintage News ^ | Sep 11, 2023 | Samantha Franco

Posted on 11/16/2023 6:07:01 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Carriage Hill

Looking at that raw video, I’m tending to believe he was shot from within the car..

Sure looks like a blast that came up through his neck and out the top of his head.

Looks like he reacted to being shot somewhere else first, before that fatal blast.

Seem to recall someone somewhere saying secret service in the car accidentally discharged their gun... reacting to the gunshots and that was the fatal hit.

I don’t know, but its damned clear, the public was not told the truth


41 posted on 11/16/2023 6:54:18 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger; rlmorel; spirited irish

From the Wikipedia link:

“On July 9, [Oswald] reported to the Marine Corps Air Station El Toro in California. There he met fellow Marine Kerry Thornley, who co-created Discordianism. Thornley wrote the 1962 fictional book The Idle Warriors based on Oswald. This was the only book written about Oswald before the Kennedy assassination.”

Discordianism
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discordianism


42 posted on 11/16/2023 6:54:51 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: HamiltonJay

People hated him. The Democrats knew what he had done.

Blackmail works both ways........................


43 posted on 11/16/2023 6:55:23 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: laconic

The rifle was a 6.5mm military rifle. All of the 6.5 mm military rifles at that time were loaded with bullets of full metal jacket, either spitzer or round nose design that weighed between 140 and 160 grains. (whether Swedish, or Japanese, or Italian) the Italian version carried a 162 grain round nose. Bullets of that high sectional density would have NO problem penetrating a human head, or body, and still penetrating a windshield. Not saying where the hole in the windshield came from, I’m just saying it could come from either direction. It may not have been “incoming’


44 posted on 11/16/2023 6:56:00 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Red Badger

LBJ had already had several enemies murdered by the time he was VP. If I remember correctly, his preferred hitman / fixer was Billy Sol Estes.


45 posted on 11/16/2023 6:57:45 AM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: bantam
He just let stories perpetuate, whereas he may have helped straighten some of this mess out years ago!

It wasn't a mess, it was an assassination and a coverup. It's naive to think the government was going to let the narrative get corrected.

If one SS agent saw this, the rest of them did too. This guy kept his mouth shut and quit. The rest of the SS kept their mouths shut too. Why? Look at the number of people who knew something and who died soon after.

46 posted on 11/16/2023 6:59:09 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Red Badger
The Warren Commission never reached out to him, which was a surprise.

No surprise, actually. They had a story to tell to cover up LBJ's involvement in the assassination. Everyone who cooperated reaped a reward. Just to name a few examples:



47 posted on 11/16/2023 6:59:47 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Red Badger

The JFK assination was nothing to lose your head over.


48 posted on 11/16/2023 6:59:54 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: bigbob

Oh I understand it was a different time. I am not saying LBJ wasn’t involved, I’m just saying seems odd he would kill for the job but then not fight to keep it.

And yes if its possible he was just a puppet in the larger conspiracy and they told him step down or we go public, or we will kill you too.. or something.. Anything is possible.

However I will say this, it sure looks to me like the fatal shot was an upward shot discharged from within the car, up through his neck and out his head.

I remember reading years ago that SS accidentally discharged a gun in the car reacting to the shots... sure as hell looks like that to me.

Looks like he reacts to being hit or something, and then upward blast just blows his head off.

If this is the truth, of the fatal shot, then it explains at least somewhat the cover up. No one wants to destroy a loyal person for an accident.

Either way, the truth, whatever it is, was not what the public was told... but that was how it was. They told the public that those 3 astronauts who burned alive in the apollo capsule “died instantly” as well... which was a bold faced lie.

I understand the times, and I also understand there can be non nepharious reasons to not tell the truth..

All I can say for certain is, that the what has been told to the public, is not the truth.... that much is completely obvious to even the casual observer.


49 posted on 11/16/2023 7:00:31 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: bantam

He choked after the fact.

For whatever reason, he did not immediately in that moment turn the found bullet from the limousine over to his superiors.

After that, I can envision the calculus. “I’ll just keep my mouth shut. I $&ucked up.” As the days and weeks passed it became a permanent thing. He would have been reprimanded or possibly fired, or charged with obstruction.

Looked at from a government employee working in a dirty field protecting his sinecure, his livelihood and pension, it makes absolutely perfect sense.


50 posted on 11/16/2023 7:01:36 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: HamiltonJay

Wow, I hadn’t heard that theory.


51 posted on 11/16/2023 7:02:36 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Nextrush

NO ONE will ever convince me that the intel agencies were not involved in the JFK assassination!!! These BASTARDS have been up to no good against this nation for DECADES, YET our legislators seem to think that they deserve a BRAND NEW complex larger than the pentagon!! The intel agencies have dirt on every damn one of these legislators, AND you can bank on the fact that Epstein was an intel asset!! PURE SCUM, ALL OF THEM!! Until we clean out these agencies from the top down this country will NEVER be run by the people!!


52 posted on 11/16/2023 7:02:50 AM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Quickgun

The more I watch that film, the more it looks like the shot trajectory was upward and out of his skull.. Obviously not a forensic expert, but I don’t see any way any gunman either in the book depository or on the grassy knoll could have produced that angle.... Sure looks to me like the fatal shot anyway was from inside the vehicle.

Pretty sure I read somewhere a SS accidentally discharged their gun when reacting to the shots fired... and if true that would explain many things.


53 posted on 11/16/2023 7:04:48 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Red Badger

“Paul Landis thinks the bullet he found must have struck JFK in the back and was unable to penetrate deeply, causing it to pop out and fall back in the seat.”

I don’t pretend to know how bullets work, but is this possible? Can bullets pop out of a body even if they don’t penetrate deeply? All the other bullets seemed to have done damage.


54 posted on 11/16/2023 7:06:53 AM PST by uptowngirl
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To: Nextrush
Bob Schieffer can be added to my list in post #47, except that he worked at the Ft. Worth desk rather than the Dallas desk at the time.

The flight into Dallas was also part of LBJ's plot. With plane loading and unloading involved, it would have actually been quicker to drive the presidential motorcade the short distance from Ft. Worth to Dallas. But then it wouldn't have gone through Dealey Plaza.

55 posted on 11/16/2023 7:07:42 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Not in the president’s car, in a secret service following car.

There was at least one M16 or AR photographed that day. It was a brand new weapon fielded. The story goes, after Oswald fired, the agent carrying the weapon lost his footing, round in the chamber, finger on the trigger, and … negligent discharge. One in a million shot, Doc.

Congressman Yarborough (a WWII combat veteran) testified that morning he smelled a strong odor of gunpowder “all the way from Dealey to Parkland”, something unlikely otherwise.

It answers a lot of questions, and also explains why the president’s body had to be removed from the County coroner jurisdiction. Assuming they wanted to cover up a tragedy like that.

Not arguing ai believe this is what happened. But it fits In a lot of ways.


56 posted on 11/16/2023 7:09:04 AM PST by Freedom4US
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One has to ask what possible reason th3y had for destroying the windshield of the car that held the nation’s president in one of the most notorious acts in history of us. And to destroy it so quickly!

Simple answer: It would have disproven the Warren Report. More complex answer: It might have exposed the deep state.

57 posted on 11/16/2023 7:09:37 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: uptowngirl

Doesn’t sound plausible..........................


58 posted on 11/16/2023 7:10:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: laconic

LBJ was in on it. He was a great actor..
I still say the kill shot came from the sewer grate. If you look on Google Maps it is right there, and the culvert goes away from the scene, conveniently...


59 posted on 11/16/2023 7:11:54 AM PST by Shady (The Force of Liberty must prevail for the sake of our Children and Grandchildren...)
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To: bantam

Some folks take oaths and even though they see the government lying, they feel compelled to honor those oaths.

They believe the oath is a two way street. When dealing with the government it never is.


60 posted on 11/16/2023 7:12:00 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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