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To: Reno89519; UMCRevMom@aol.com; NoLibZone; gleeaikin
Reno89519: "Are you a paid Ukrainian propagandist?"

I'm not hearing propaganda from our pro-Ukrainians.
I am hearing a lot of lies, nonsense and personal attacks -- the very definition of "propaganda" -- from our pro-Russian anti-Ukrainians.

As of "paid", nobody posting their own opinions on Free Republic has ever admitted to being paid for it, though, when you see the same exact nonsense posted over and over again from different posters, you just have to scratch your head and marvel at how that can happen.

Reno89519: "The BS you post here is so over the top, so anti-American, so out of touch with what matters to Americans, that I really can’t believe you could be posting it here unless you are a paid propagandist."

Here you are simply launching into crazy nonsense, since there's nothing "anti-American" about supporting Ukrainians against Vlad the Invader's highly illegal "special military operations" in Ukraine.

As to "what matters to Americans" nothing matters more than peace and prosperity, and Vlad the Invader has threatened both, whether we recognize his threats or not.

Reno89519: "Otherwise, have you no shame?"

Seriously, why are you babbling idiotically, as if you have no shame regarding honesty and decency?

Reno89519: "Why not, if you are an American, put this effort instead in helping US hostages in Gaza?
In helping get retribution for the barbaric attack, the evil of Islam HAMAS?
Ukraine is not our civil war, not our concern, has no security impact on the US.
None at all."

All that is said like a true Russian propagandist.

The fact is, that all of those are part of the same thing: Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and anywhere else the new Axis of Evil -- Russia's Vlad the Invader, CCP's Xi-snake, NoKo's Little Kim and Iran's Moolah Mullahs -- anywhere they attack or threaten the world-order Americans have helped enforce since the end of World War II.

They attack because they perceive we are weak and each victory for them makes us weaker, them stronger.
We can call this Cold War II or we can go all the way back to the 1930s and the original Axis of Evil which began waging war many years before we were forced to take our own heads out of the sand.

  1. 1931 Imperial Japan invaded China, "not our war"

  2. 1936 Fascist Italy invaded Ethiopia, "not war"

  3. 1936 Nazi Germany occupied the Rhineland and in 1938 invaded Austria, "not our war"
All of those were "not our wars" until suddenly they all became our war, at the overall costs of circa 75 million lives and untold trillions of dollars, in today's $ equivalents.
That is a basic lesson of history that, after 1945, everyone understood, and nobody needed to be reminded of until just the past few years.
81 posted on 11/16/2023 7:12:59 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

Ukraine and Russia are involved in a civil war, nothing more. Not our issue. But killing, raping, and taking Americans hostage in Gaza is. Surely you can see the difference. And propaganda? Wow, if you don’t see the paid trash posted day in and day out on Ukraine as anything but propaganda, I presume you are part of the Ukrainian criminal enterprise yourself.


84 posted on 11/16/2023 7:19:23 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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