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Is it OK to have your sole loyalty belong to America?

Or does loyalty to America depend on subservience to another country? IOW, subservience which requires total lack of criticism, total agreement, to avoid malignant name calling?

1 posted on 11/13/2023 5:25:29 PM PST by Gratia
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America is an ideal, not a government.
I am a loyal American.


59 posted on 11/13/2023 7:20:50 PM PST by JustaTech (My mind is the weapon. Everything else is tools.)
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1 Timothy 4:1

Now the Spirit manifestly saith, that in the last times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to spirits of error, and doctrines of devils

I feel as though my country has been hijacked as well as a large chunk of Christianity in this country.

Earlier in the year, Christians in the Holy land were giving warnings as to what was going on.


87 posted on 11/13/2023 8:30:13 PM PST by LilOlLady
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Song for you. Remember your meds.
107 posted on 11/13/2023 9:22:58 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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You last posted a fishing expedition thread in 2014.
111 posted on 11/13/2023 9:45:44 PM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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my two cents, ‘loyalty’ is not a Christian virtue. it can be good or bad depending on who or what you are loyal to—the object of your loyalty. and if loyalty is to be good, it certainly has to go first to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, before anyone or anything else.

your commitment to America is required and defined by your citizenship oath to the Constitution and America’s commitment to staying in the Will of God. similarly, your commitment to Israel or any strange country is dependent solely on that country’s commitment to stay in the Will of God.


112 posted on 11/13/2023 10:06:20 PM PST by dadfly ( )
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Your question made me think of the free traitors who called themselves capitalist Christian patriots, but who supported sending our manufacturing, technology, and money to a communist country that oppresses the church.

Now they're building up their infrastructure and military with our money while we have to raise the debt ceiling just to pay the interest on our loans.

We chose cheap labor over our own children and Vets, and now our kids are in debt for training for tech jobs that are being outsourced and we have a homeless Vet problem.

And after all of that, where are those cheaper prices the free traitors promised us?

If that's what your post is about, then yes we should have been loyal to our country. If we had been, then we wouldn't be facing all of the problems we have now.

119 posted on 11/14/2023 4:07:30 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Will whoever keeps asking if this country can get any more insane please stop?)
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God. Family.
Capitalism.

I have no loyalty to a location. We use to have all three in America. Now... It is a tool of oppression for demons and satanic marxists. However it is still the best place in the world and I will do what I can to keep the rotten corpse upright. But I fear it is gone. Too many marxists
, too many America hating bureaucrats, and too many illegal invaders.


124 posted on 11/14/2023 5:12:44 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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I just got out of the shower…what did I miss?


148 posted on 11/15/2023 6:41:59 AM PST by JRios1968 (Spork weasel!!! - Ralph, as quoted by Roscoe Karns)
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