Posted on 11/11/2023 11:43:20 AM PST by DallasBiff
Gone are the white picket fences, the two-and-a-half children in the suburbs, and married parents. The American nuclear family is officially dead, according to a new analysis from the Pew Research Center — even if some Americans haven't accepted it
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A bygone tagline of mine read “As goes the American Family, so goes America.
And it’s clear to everyone that both the American Family and America itself are terminal.
“officially dead”
Maybe. But for the American Family as we knew it that is still alive and thriving in America, life is good.
Get an education. Get married. Stay married.
Do this and you WILL be successful in life.
Married 48 years. Kids are married, with grand and great grand ,children and doing well. Thanks, but no thanks.
Men Going Their Own Way movement.
Things were different 48 years ago. That country doesn't exist anymore.
“Hard to have mom stay home to raise the kids”
Thank two things for that.
1. Democrat big government. They raised taxes so high so quickly it became imperative to have two incomes to have a modest middle-class life. Thank you Income Tax, FDR, LBJ, etc.
2. WW II pulled huge numbers of women into the work force and got them out of the house. They liked working. Nothing wrong with that, but it doesn’t help domestic life. AND, mom working means more clothes, a second car, more gasoline, child care, etc. So much of Mom’s income goes to those incremental costs. We found this ourselves and it didn’t pay to have Mom working when #3 came along.
“If you have a young son, it’s a bad deal for him to get married in the United States.”
Understand why you say that.
But the truth is that marriage is the cornerstone of adult life. The key is to teach your young sons to choose a spouse wisely.
I was 22 and would go into the Navy Reserve in a year, and my wife was 21 and a new RN. We delayed having kids until I was out of active Navy, and I had a career and she worked. We saved her salary and bought our first home on the GI Bill. She didn’t return to work until our oldest was 10/11.
We had younger siblings, get married and started having babies asap. I had one sibling get her degree, get married, start her family and a new career.
One of the primary reasons why America and our families are in trouble is the MGTOW movement. Men who have been mislead by the feminist agenda.
... and thus is it any surprise that the majority of the American electorate never heard of an abortion it didn’t love?
One of the primary reasons why America and our families are in trouble is the MGTOW movement. Men who have been mislead by the feminist agenda.
On top of men subsequently mislead by the MGTOW movement.
Correct.
Sadly.
1970 was probably the peak of the nuclear family with all the WW II vets coming home, getting married, and having the baby boom, who were also beginning to form families by ‘70.
I think that it might have been different in the ‘20s and ‘30s. Poor economic conditions mean fewer and later family formation, and they mean that single people find roommates or live with other families.
In the earlier more agrarian society, it was common for young men to work as farmhands for other families and for young women to work as live in maids.
In my family there were also cases of unmarried brothers and sisters living together, and I also knew of others in the county.
Genealogical records in the late 1800s also have a lot of unmarried individuals.
“One of the primary reasons why America and our families are in trouble is the MGTOW movement. Men who have been mislead by the feminist agenda.”
MGTOW combined with no fault divorce, welfare moms, deadbeat dads and fat, white college “educated” cat ladies deluded by feminazism have ruined this country. Godlessness is behind all of it.
You’re correct
Greatly increased the supply of labor, which put downward pressure on wages. And so it basically made it where you did have to have two working spouses to get by.
“I have been hearing that song for 30 years or more. It just is not true.”
I know quite a few Latino families including the one I’m sitting across from right now. They’re traditionalist. The single, younger ones have a higher chance of being woke like any ethnic group.
You think I’m crazy? Here’s a little economic history.
Prior to the war, the extended family was the norm, i.e. three generations under one roof. Mom and Pop might be working out in the fields, in the small town store they owned, or in the factory in a large city. Grandma and Grandpa, or both, were home to give the kids milk and cookies and keep them out of trouble. When the grandparents were too old to care for themselves, Mom and Pop and the kids helped out until the day they died. There was no such thing as a retirement home or a nursing home. You lived, gave birth and died at home.
Harry Truman was a good example of this arrangement. When he married Bess Wallace, he lived with his in-laws until he assumed the presidency. The White House was the first real home he and Bess shared alone.
The Great Depression’s stock market crash gets all the attention. It wasn’t until 1954 that stocks reached their 1929 high again. But the real estate crash was far worse. From 1929 to 1947, real estate lost 96% of its value nationwide. Because real estate is traded locally, there were places like Florida and Southern California where the real estate bubble reached truly insane heights. The only good thing coming out of it was that veterans returning from the war were able to buy in at the bottom.
When the vets came home, the US government’s greatest fear was that the nation would return to its regular business before the war started, i.e., the Great Depression. Having veterans trained in the use of armaments coming home to a nation where only their wives had jobs was a recipe for civil unrest, if not outright revolution.
The government encouraged the nation’s periodicals and radio shows to emphasize that a woman’s place was in the home, and women should return to the kitchen so their husbands would have jobs. Businesses were asked to fire their female employees and replace them with veterans. It worked.
But the real estate problem was feared to be intractable. The government encouraged men to leave those dirty, dark cities with their dirty, dark, smelly subways and trolley cars – and move to Levittown! The Veterans Administration created a mortgage program to get families to move to the suburbs where their shiny new Chevrolet or Ford would give them private mobility, one in which they didn’t have to rub shoulders on a public conveyance with their fellow citizens.
Grandma and Grandpa would be left alone to fend for themselves. So came the advent of retirement homes and nursing homes. Now you didn’t die at home in the bosom of the family, you died in the sterile environment of the hospital, where death in all its unpleasantness was kept hidden from people’s delicate sensibilities.
Ironically, the Great Depression didn’t recur. The money stashed in war bonds was released slowly from 1946 to 1970, boosting the economy – along the able assistance of the Cold War. The fact that American industry hadn’t been bombed into rubble helped. As far as the rest of the world was concerned, we were the only game in town and could charge what we wished for our goods. This led to the creation of the American middle class as we know it, done with the aid of labor unions. That money went to rebuild Europe with the Marshall Plan, creating a positive feedback loop further boosting American prosperity.
Economic difficulties are creating the extended family, as young people – and young married couples – again live with their parents. America’s predatory tax system doesn’t help either. What was old is becoming new again.
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