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:: Clap trap to you, truth to others. :: Well then, lets have a show of hands. What say you FreeQs? Is this God's truth...Yay or Nay?
678 posted on 11/14/2023 12:41:19 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (When I say "We" I speak of, -not for-, "We the People")
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I don’t think any of us have a clue as to what God’s truth may be. It’s asinine to think otherwise.


700 posted on 11/14/2023 1:30:21 PM PST by numberonepal (WWG1WGA)
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Cletus, I struggle with the idea that I must forgive those who actively harm me and mine, and appear to believe they have or are doing no wrong.

My understanding is that if they ask for forgiveness, apologize, and try to make amends for the harm, then I am totally wrong not to accept the apology and forgive them.

But, what if they refuse to acknowledge the harm, keep on engaging in the harmful words and behaviors? I can’t see that God would want us to tolerate such, and to expose our children and loved ones to more...

I think we have an obligation to pray for them, that they recognize what they have done, and change their ways, but I do not think we are obliged to tolerate, ignore the behavior, or continue the relationship.

But, I could be wrong. Jesus did say “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. I try to say that to myself, but I also stay away from such people, even relatives who have engaged in horrible behavior.


723 posted on 11/14/2023 3:09:04 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Cletus, I struggle with the idea that I must forgive those who actively harm me and mine, and appear to believe they have or are doing no wrong.

My understanding is that if they ask for forgiveness, apologize, and try to make amends for the harm, then I am totally wrong not to accept the apology and forgive them.

But, what if they refuse to acknowledge the harm, keep on engaging in the harmful words and behaviors? I can’t see that God would want us to tolerate such, and to expose our children and loved ones to more...

I think we have an obligation to pray for them, that they recognize what they have done, and change their ways, but I do not think we are obliged to tolerate, ignore the behavior, or continue the relationship.

But, I could be wrong. Jesus did say “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do. I try to say that to myself, but I also stay away from such people, even relatives who have engaged in horrible behavior.


724 posted on 11/14/2023 3:09:31 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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