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To: Chuckster
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 11/11/2023 Vol.479, Q Day 2206, Chuckster wrote:

Looks like some of us have reached their personal deadlines. The thread has gotten thin and messy. Petty squabbling is going on and many of us are really impatient. A lot of FreeQs seem to have dropped out.

Personally, I think the thread has been messier, many  many times. And people drop out, and others drop in. The end won't be for everyone, but I think some who move to different locations for their Q/Trump info are still serving Q, just from a venue they prefer (e.g., some prefer 8K)

I was actually more impatient about 2 -3 years ago. When Bagster said in our first year, that this Storm would take at least 5 years, I laughed like a hyena. Seriously. I regret that I didn't realize this was 'bigger than I realized".

My personal deadlines gave way to the realization that the entire world is changing as a result of Q and Trump, and that their strategies and objectives have never been deployed, and on a world-wide scale, before. We're witnessing history and there is no precedent by which I could hang on to my personal deadlines any more.

I have to admit, I am pretty diappointed that nothing seems to be happening myself.

I myself am astounded by how much (good) has been happening. Hurrah for team White Hats!

If this rate of change continued for another 6 years, our world would be barely recognizable. I'll write more about that (details) soon.

I remember asking the first mate on a ship why we were dragging our anchor to the south when the wind was around 70 knots toward the north. He tried to hide his smile as he explained the ship is immersed in a strong current which impacts direction of movement more than wind.  I looked over the side at the water, which seemed so smooth on the surface.  Most of the time, I wasn't even looking at the water and instead felt the impact of the forceful wind.

We're usually unable to see what Q/Trump are doing (smooth sailing, stability), meanwhile the Deep State parades what it is doing 24/7 on every comms channel  (havoc, "Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!"). I think it's natural to focus warily on the havoc, more than the calm.

Everything Trump/Q does or does not do seems to be immersed in that kind of relentless undercurrent  -calm on the surface, but below that surface, able to move massive ships against the wind. Our enemies want to 'see some action' they can spin into lockdowns and censorship, but every since Tump came up the escalator - they keep getting a show they can't spin or use;  the signature white hat style is outwardly, 'steady as she goes'.

I thought surely >something< must happen before the end of the year.

Here's an example of an accomplishment: The Ukraine was and continues to be, 'Bigger than (we) realize.'  Child trafficking, organ harvesting, money laundering - corruption hub with so many in the DNC guilty of treason there. The Ukraine is/was of vital strategic importance to the deep state - remove Putin and take over Russian resources and bring the rest of the world under dominion.

To NATO's  utter horror, they are now losing their bid to bring the world under their dominion by removing the Russian roadblock to their plans. That conflict had to take place before other steps in the plan can take place otherwise it would be brandished as a threat. The Ukraine, and the US biowarfare labs there, the  source of DNC money laundering, a virtual HQ for the Deep State, a keystone to their plans to enslave us, is being dismantled as an operations hub.  The bulk of the fighting was accomplished this year and as the proxy war there writhes and dies, the Deep State loses a weapon to use against exposures  - they wanted WWIII after all.

Okay how about another example. I watched the Tucker Carlson/Glen Greenwald interview. Greenwald was asked what he thought about the assertions that indictments haven't hurt Trump, and probably won't hurt him if he's convicted/jailed. Greenwald said that the MSM is horrified by this in particular because it means no one believes them anymore, they lost their power. I can't think of another time when a target of the MSM grew stronger and stronger like Trump has. I think Greenwald is right - the public is beginning to socially demonstrate their disgust and mistrust of the MSM. This, after the decades the CIA spent carefully cultivating the 'right' of the MSM to 'function as the conscience of the people' (insert pic of Walter Cronkite here).

But yesterday, in a conversation with my brother, I learned something. There are still far too many who don’t don’t get it. Drunk on the Blue Koolaid? Little Brother (Age 70) believes ALL the hoaxes from “Fine people” to “Drink Bleach” and all the rest.

My own brother really believes that Trump is actually Hitler; that he plans to overthrow the Constitution, implement a full on Nazi regime complete with jackboots, swastikas, tanks in the streets and concentration camps for Democrats and non-whites. Seriously.

Some people are still hooked to the indoctrination platforms so they can't 'see'  the truth. I don't believe all need be awakened, just 'enough' of the right demographics (the rock throwing demo? voter demo? not sure).

There is still a lot of work to be done on the Great Awakening. Sad.

We were told  that some would never awaken; perhaps it's because it would be too psychologically threatening for those whose identity is entwined with their beliefs. Ithink the DS encourages identity politics for this reason - getting someone to let go of their former beliefs can feel like identity 'death' for those indoctrinated.

As I said, I hope to write of the stunning amount of change I've been thanking God for - Thanks Giving is coming after all! I know you're sincere and burdened in your disappointment and will pray for your  comfort.

 


1,547 posted on 11/18/2023 12:30:59 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUSTPING)
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To: ransomnote

Note the original indictment and unsealing dates were during the last days of Trump's administration.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/high-ranking-ms-13-fugitive-arrested-terrorism-charges

High-Ranking MS-13 Fugitive Arrested on Terrorism Charges

" As set forth in the indictment, which was returned on Dec. 16, 2020 and unsealed on Jan. 14, 2021, and related court filings, Canales-Rivera and his co-defendants are part of MS-13’s command and control structure, consisting of the Ranfla Nacional, Ranfla en Las Calles, and Ranfla en Los Penales. They play significant leadership roles in the organization’s operations in El Salvador, Mexico, the United States, and throughout the world. In total, 27 of the highest-ranking leaders of MS-13 have been charged in the Eastern District of New York in this indictment and the related indictment of United States v. Arevalo-Chavez, et al.
 
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"On Nov. 9, Canales-Rivera was arrested by members of the FBI, Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), and the U.S. Marshals Service (USMS) when he arrived at George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston, Texas. Specifically, Canales-Rivera has been charged with conspiracy to provide and conceal material support to terrorists, conspiracy to commit acts of terrorism transcending national boundaries, conspiracy to finance terrorism and narco-terrorism conspiracy."

1,548 posted on 11/18/2023 12:58:50 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUSTPING)
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To: ransomnote
Yes, the lead up to the 3rd act twist is taking forever, but have no fear...


1,554 posted on 11/18/2023 3:32:54 AM PST by USMC79to83
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To: ransomnote; Chuckster; All

ransomnote said: We were told that some would never awaken; perhaps it’s because it would be too psychologically threatening for those whose identity is entwined with their beliefs. I think the DS encourages identity politics for this reason - getting someone to let go of their former beliefs can feel like identity ‘death’ for those indoctrinated.


When I woke up to reality, I was absolutely in shock. I was shaken to the core. As I realized that *everything* I’d been told all my life was a lie, I felt unmoored from my previous “reality”, from my previous life. I felt disconnected from friends and family. IDK if others here had such an unsettling, disturbing reaction, but I imagine many did.

In those days, there was much less information to support the real reality (as opposed to the fake reality that we were being fed by the MSM) and I spent about 6 months wavering between believing Q was real and doubting it. It was not just about believing Q was real. It was so much more. Along with Q were the issues of believing new truths (which were in short supply) and questioning old lies (which were abundant). The problem back then was that there were so many things I started to believe or suspect but few for which I had proof.

So when I think about new people waking up - or beginning to wake up - I still have a lot of sympathy. (Except when I don’t and I just want to slap people silly and tell them to wake the heck up already.)

Waking up is a scary process.

Think about all the “conservative truths” we have had to give up. Facing the idea that various conservatives who I voted for and defended might be dirty was a harsh realization. Not fun. Definitely not fun to admit to lefties that I was wrong (or possibly wrong) about certain people. Especially difficult when dealing with lefties who would pounce on any admission of error or even the slightest doubt on my part, yet would give absolutely no ground on any of their cherished beliefs (that were way way way more wrong than mine!). The MO of most of those lefties has always been to cling absolutely to their (false) beliefs.

I think it is easier for us conservatives because we have always squabbled amongst ourselves. In contrast, the lefties have always presented a united front with zero dissension in the ranks. (Yes, that’s an oversimplification, but a generalization that is pretty close.)

For so many lefties, their identity rests on the idea that they are the good people and we are the mean people. They are anti-war and we are pro-war. They are all about peace and love and we are the haters. They care about the environment and we are trying to destroy it (because we are greedy and sometimes just plain evil). Their identity as lefties tells them that they are the good and moral people and we are the evil ones. So think about what it means for them to give that up!

The first reaction of a lefty is along the lines of “if they are right and I am wrong about things, then that means that they are the good guys and I am a bad guy”. I don’t think that is a conscious thought, but rather the unconscious mental narrative that prevents them from diverging from their long held beliefs. That is (one major reason) why red-pilling them can be so hard.

A few of them wake up with what amounts to a huge bucket of cold water poured on them. But most can’t face that and end up pushing back because it is too painful for them. If the “all at once” method won’t work for them, they need to be woken up gently. Telling them that the R party isn’t pure and isn’t much better than the D party can sometimes help. Telling them that we’ve been suckers for plenty of lies can sometimes help.

And sometimes just backing off and giving them some space to wake up without having to admit that we were right and they were wrong (because we/they weren’t 100%) is what they need. Backing off so we aren’t there saying “I told you so”. Backing off and letting them pretend they knew X, Y, or Z all along.

Things are moving faster and faster every day. People who have had a serious case of Trump Derangement Syndrome are starting to think about voting for Trump!! When leftist celebrities start telling people they might vote for Trump, perhaps the leftist sheep will follow. (Michael Rappaport had a huge rant yesterday. Serious language warning if you listen to it.) I think it will be interesting to see which Trump haters convert and how it affects public attitudes.

Elon Musk was not exactly a Trump fan. Maybe still isn’t - at least not publicly. But he has said some startling things that made many on the left think at least a little bit. A few others like him. Then yesterday Rappaport.

I’m waiting to hear Robert DeNiro and Cher endorse Trump. Ha!

I think we could have some fun here on the thread with a pool guessing who will come out for Trump next.

:-)


1,564 posted on 11/18/2023 6:00:09 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: ransomnote

“I was actually more impatient about 2 -3 years ago. When Bagster said in our first year, that this Storm would take at least 5 years, I laughed like a hyena. Seriously. I regret that I didn’t realize this was ‘bigger than I realized”. “
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Perhaps topics relegated to festival would have been useful in this regard.


1,573 posted on 11/18/2023 6:41:46 AM PST by smileyface ("The illuminati's whole philosophy demands the use, abuse, sacrifice and consumption of children.")
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To: ransomnote

Oh that is so good, MQD! You captured everything racing around in my busy mind. The changes in the world’s general mindset in the last 6 years have been enormous and profound for anyone who’s been paying attention. I’ve been suspicious that President Trump’s travails with the legal system are one giant distraction (look here, don’t look there) from huge things happening behind the scenes. The charges are so ridiculous and extreme that they can’t be taken seriously, so what is their real purpose? I have mixed feelings of sorrow and anger about those not paying attention who sit zombie-like in front of the TV, continuing to believe everything the pretty faces say. Their continued acceptance of the narrative makes them part of the problem.


1,590 posted on 11/18/2023 9:30:25 AM PST by LittleLinda
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