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To: grey_whiskers
And yet it seems that you can't admit, that the jabs, which introduce the modified mRNA directly into the blood

Please, are you unable to understand the sequence of events following vaccination?

I've explained it before.

At this point, it is up to YOU to explain why mRNA encoding spike protein in a vaccine is life-threateningly dangerous, but mRNA encoding spike protein in a SARS-CoV-2 virus is harmless and nothing to worry about. YOU have to provide the scientific references from the scientific/medical literature. YOU have to explain how and why SARS-CoV-2 virus particles which are literally covered with spike protein and distributed all over your body are innocuous.

which is designed to bind to the same ACE-2 receptors as the real gain-of-function engineered virus

And it is up to YOU to explain how and why this virus was supposedly engineered and what, specifically, the "gain-of-function" allegedly is. If there is any scientific evidence, it should be fairly straightforward to find at PubMed.gov. I'll point out that if there was any proof of virus bioengineering, every scientist in the world would have raced to be first to publish.

I do find it ironic that the conspiracy theorists who push the antivax narrative that vaccines are dangerous, blah blah blah, also claim that Covid-19 is just a mild little cold that is caused by an engineered bioweapon designed to wipe out humanity. Which is it? A deadly bioweapon or a harmless little cold?

But he might've, you know, as an MD, had his nurse take a clinic history and just asked the patients if they've been jabbed.

Let's see. I assume you are referring to Peter McCullough.

Here, look at this. Autoimmune inflammatory reactions triggered by the COVID-19 genetic vaccines in terminally differentiated tissues.

This review (not study report), which was written to imply that there are dangers with the vaccine that everyone is overlooking, lists Peter McCullough as the last author. He listed his professional affiliation as "Cardiology, Truth for Health Foundation, Tucson, AZ, USA."

Whoa, wait one minute. Truth for Health Foundation is not a medical clinic or hospital. The website appears to be a compilation of antivax tropes. No patients are seen there. No medical research is done there. He also has a personal website where he promotes a scientifically unsupported and highly questionable Covid treatment protocol and sells "supplements" which he promises will rid your body of spike protein remaining from infection or vaccines. (No scientific evidence for this, of course. Proteases in your body destroy spike protein.) There is a link and a number to schedule an appointment, but I cannot tell if he actually does see patients.

And look at this: Baylor Gets Restraining Order Against COVID Vaccine Skeptic Doc, Baylor health sues COVID-19 vaccine skeptic and demands Dallas doctor stop using its name, Lawsuit Against Dr. Peter McCullough by Baylor Scott & White Dismissed.

It looks like Baylor sued McCullough for violating an agreement to not claim any affiliation with Baylor university. He signed this when Baylor cut ties with him around the time he jumped on the antivax/misinformation bandwagon. McCullough has claimed that the dismissal of the lawsuit was a "victory for free speech." However, according to the article about the lawsuit, cases are dismissed when the parties involved reach an out-of-court settlement. As far as I can tell, McCullough is still prohibited from claiming affiliation with Baylor.

123 posted on 11/05/2023 12:36:29 PM PST by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom
At this point, it is up to YOU to explain why mRNA encoding spike protein in a vaccine is life-threateningly dangerous, but mRNA encoding spike protein in a SARS-CoV-2 virus is harmless and nothing to worry about. YOU have to provide the scientific references from the scientific/medical literature. YOU have to explain how and why SARS-CoV-2 virus particles which are literally covered with spike protein and distributed all over your body are innocuous.

I already explained.

And what I explained, is not what your reply to me said.

So either you didn't read my writing, or you can't, follow it.

Which is why you constantly taunt people here to provide references.

Notice how long it took you to reply to my post written in the vernacular, and relying on facts accepted by both sides, but in deliberately choppy sentences so feeding it into an AI wouldn't give any useful text response.

So either "you" are a bot, or you are a high-schooler or similar, relying on AI or chatGPT to do quick lit lookups giving either enough keywords or info to feed the Internet search.

And it is up to YOU to explain how and why this virus was supposedly engineered and what, specifically, the "gain-of-function" allegedly is. If there is any scientific evidence, it should be fairly straightforward to find at PubMed.gov. I'll point out that if there was any proof of virus bioengineering, every scientist in the world would have raced to be first to publish.

This is the proof by absence logical fallacy you're attempting.

Think what you're saying.

OK, I know whatever chatbot is behind your responses can't think, but *still*.

This is a bioweapon: China has locked down a city of 11 million during Chinese New Year because of it. And we know the Chicoms aren't any fan of human lives.

So coming out too strongly proving it as such, could lead to nuclear war ("weapons of mass destruction.")

To say nothing of the instant "UP YOUR EFFING *$$" to the jabs: if it got out that COVID was a bioweapon, (see also Daszak, Baric, and others:even Lord Pharaoh 0moeba outlawed gain of function in the US!), would people trust ANYTHING from the medical establishment ever again?

And there go Pfauci's and Moderna's dreams of untold wealth.

Did you hook up with Joe Isuzu? Or was he afraid of catching something from you (like spike protein)?

124 posted on 11/05/2023 1:05:09 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
Ad hominem doesn't work Dingbat. As you pointed out sources and methods allow anyone to replicate experimental results.

(Not really, the reproducibility problem is a thing, particularly in the hot and heavy publish or perish world of medicine and of pharma research. But it's the cover story everyone is sticking to.)

But more importantly, your iwn affiliation is "Hot Lips Houlihan, retired cat lady" .

Until you become an item with Joe Isuzu,anyway.

Therefore, by your own sworn rules, there is no reason to accept a single word you say about anything.

Dingbat.

125 posted on 11/05/2023 1:14:42 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
He also has a personal website where he promotes a scientifically unsupported and highly questionable Covid treatment protocol and sells "supplements" which he promises will rid your body of spike protein remaining from infection or vaccines. (No scientific evidence for this, of course. Proteases in your body destroy spike protein.)

https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/27/17/5405

This is scientific evidence that nattokinase will degrade spike protein.

In vitro, but it does work.

"Nattokinase has the same conserved amino acids, Ser-His-Asp (Asp32, His64, and Ser221), which are members of the subtilisin family of serine proteases [6,18]. The crystal structure of nattokinase is nearly identical to that of subtilisin E from B. subtilis DB104 [19]. This result is consistent with that of a previous report that nattokinase is a serine protease."

Change "no scientific evidence" to "well, that doesn't count because REASONS. Also Calculus!™. Did I tell you I used to be an influenza expert from sitting next to a nurse?"

You've got to learn to stop overstating your case.

Get stuffed, Dingbat.

135 posted on 11/07/2023 10:11:23 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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