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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

So the battery pack will be both heavier and probably be twice as expensive as a ICE car.

And you are almost forced to purchase a new car because after 8-10 years you will have to replace the battery pack at a cost that is more than the value of the car. So your 8-10 year old car is basically worthless.

And the infrastructure STILL isn’t in place. Wind and solar WILL NOT be reliable or available enough unless we build wind and solar farms the size of Nevada. The greeniacs are absolutely opposed to more gas or coal generated power and just the mention of nuclear has them putting their fingerws in their ears and going “LALALALALA”.

AND ou will need 20 charging stations to replace ONE gas pump.

AND you will need to ate least double the power generation to power all the charging stations.

AND it will cost you several thousand dollars to install a charging station at your house.


19 posted on 10/30/2023 5:43:30 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
So the battery pack will be both heavier and probably be twice as expensive as a ICE car.
A Tesla Model 3 sedan now costs less than the median new car sold in America - and it actually isn’t all that heavy. Performance is worthy of the name. Versions with real zip are available (but do cost more).
And you are almost forced to purchase a new car because after 8-10 years you will have to replace the battery pack at a cost that is more than the value of the car. So your 8-10 year old car is basically worthless.
The experience of Hertz is that Teslas are good rental cars - not too expensive, and require less maintenance (and electricity costs less than gasoline per mile). It turns out that modern batteries don’t degrade nearly as fast as I feared (and you still think). Batteries seem to hold up better than gasoline engines. And if the kw/pound of your battery degrades to the point where you need a new one (after, say 250,000 miles), the old battery is still useful for stationary storage.

I won’t trouble to debate every point, tho I could - but let me just end with the fact that the best way to charge is overnight in your garage using 220 volts - which you probably don’t have in your garage already, so that’s a cost. The adapter to your car doesn’t cost “thousands.” And the juice is less expensive than gasoline, per mile.


33 posted on 10/30/2023 6:50:22 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (A jury represents society. It presumes the innocence of anyone the government undertakes to punish)
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