The "exoneration" of the author was that he was investigated for ethical violations related to human subject research. He argued that he used anonymous surveys and did not personally see any of the survey respondents and was able to convince the university that he did not violate ethical standards of human subject research. The university did not validate his paper or the questionable findings therein.
As for the highly surprising claim that he found "Estimated fatalities are 289,789 (95% CI: 229,319 – 344,319)", this is based on utterly NO medical or death certificate data.
He asked people whether they knew someone who was injured or died from Covid or someone who was injured or died from the vaccine. The responses to these questions were not validated with any objective data. During the pandemic, people are likely to say that any death that they know of is caused by Covid or vaccine because that is what is on their minds. But this is not equivalent to independent objective analysis of cause of death. He took the number of deaths that survey respondents reported as vaccine related and extrapolated them to the entire population. This is not scientifically valid methodology. The only way to determine cause of death is through medical record review, laboratory testing, and autopsy if indicated or the family requests.
The numbers of Covid deaths that were verified through laboratory testing, medical records, and/or autopsy were 350,831 in 2020, 416,893 in 2021, and 244,986 in 2022. The big drop between 2021 and 2022 is because of the vaccine.
Skidmore's article remains in retracted status. The LA times article linked in the OP explains this.
Death statistics for 2020-2022:
Mortality in the United States, 2020.
Mortality in the United States, 2021.
Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2022.
For all three years, Covid is the third leading cause of death. Vaccines, on the other hand, cause so few deaths that it is difficult to find even one validated report of a vaccine death. Yet antivax rhetoric creators would have us believe that vaccines are so deadly that we should be witnessing people dropping dead constantly now. As of May, 2023, a total of 676,728,782 doses of vaccine had been administered to 81.4% of the US population (just slightly over 4 out of 5 people). COVID Data Tracker. With more than 81.4% of us vaccinated (the number has not been updated since May), if the vaccines are as dangerous as antivax professionals claim, why haven't more of us dropped dead?
Why don't you go get a couple of boosters while we ponder that?
You want MORE to drop dead?
So you seem to admit what we have been saying for a long time.
Let me put the question to exDemMom this way: What would you accept as clear and compelling evidence that the Covid “vaccinations” cause death?
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This has not been proven so you should not make this claim. This is what you believe to be true because of confirmation bias.
“He asked people whether they knew someone who was injured or died from Covid or someone who was injured or died from the vaccine.”
His entire case is based on an opinion poll of people who think that someone they know was killed by the vaccine.
The number of unexplained deaths of people and stories seems unusually high lately as well as the number of times cause of death is never revealed.
You have a good pharma shill technique. You download tons of fake information that would take me a day and a half to refute. I’m going to have to get pro-active about getting the truth out there because nobody, and I do mean NOBODY has time to wade through the INDUSTRY APPROVED FAUCI LEVEL propaganda you post. It’s the ‘narrative’ reposted on Free Republic because we were out here in the wild, choosing our own sources the government has not blessed. We now have ‘state doctors’ who tell us what the ‘TRUTH’ is and any non-state doctor who says different will be fired, threatened, stripped of certification or license to practice. Yes - that’s your group, turning America into the CCP one state-approved post at a time.
The legitimate process of peer-review has been purchased by FAUCI over his 40 plus years buying compliance, so that if frowns, the Lancet will pull an article and lie about it for years. So normal scientists can’t get ‘non-state approved’ opinions published. They finally put together their own peer review sources because they don’t want to be Faucists, they want to be doctors. And for this you sneer that they set the bar low for themselves; how DARE they escape state level censorship. Don’t they know who now owns medicine?! Don’t they know every American now has the same doctor, and he’s a FED?
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled MSU Professor Mark Skidmore was exonerated by MSU; his landmark paper showing over 250,000 killed by the COVID vaccine is now back in the peer-reviewed literature, exDemMom wrote: |
| This paper has not, in fact, been reinstated in the peer-reviewed medical literature. It has been picked up by a fake journal that exists to give antivax/antiscience articles a similar appearance to real articles published in bona fide medical/scientific publications. The "exoneration" of the author was that he was investigated for ethical violations related to human subject research. He argued that he used anonymous surveys and did not personally see any of the survey respondents and was able to convince the university that he did not violate ethical standards of human subject research. The university did not validate his paper or the questionable findings therein. As for the highly surprising claim that he found "Estimated fatalities are 289,789 (95% CI: 229,319 – 344,319)", this is based on utterly NO medical or death certificate data. He asked people whether they knew someone who was injured or died from Covid or someone who was injured or died from the vaccine. The responses to these questions were not validated with any objective data. During the pandemic, people are likely to say that any death that they know of is caused by Covid or vaccine because that is what is on their minds. But this is not equivalent to independent objective analysis of cause of death. He took the number of deaths that survey respondents reported as vaccine related and extrapolated them to the entire population. This is not scientifically valid methodology. The only way to determine cause of death is through medical record review, laboratory testing, and autopsy if indicated or the family requests. The numbers of Covid deaths that were verified through laboratory testing, medical records, and/or autopsy were 350,831 in 2020, 416,893 in 2021, and 244,986 in 2022. The big drop between 2021 and 2022 is because of the vaccine. Skidmore's article remains in retracted status. The LA times article linked in the OP explains this. Death statistics for 2020-2022: Mortality in the United States, 2020. Mortality in the United States, 2021. Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2022. For all three years, Covid is the third leading cause of death. Vaccines, on the other hand, cause so few deaths that it is difficult to find even one validated report of a vaccine death. Yet antivax rhetoric creators would have us believe that vaccines are so deadly that we should be witnessing people dropping dead constantly now. As of May, 2023, a total of 676,728,782 doses of vaccine had been administered to 81.4% of the US population (just slightly over 4 out of 5 people). COVID Data Tracker. With more than 81.4% of us vaccinated (the number has not been updated since May), if the vaccines are as dangerous as antivax professionals claim, why haven't more of us dropped dead? |
After I pointed out you post mountains of fake data and it would take me forever to get through it all and refute it, you challenged me to refute an entirely unrelated article from those links in your original posts.
Why?
Because all your links in your original posts are CDC. The world according to the filthy, lying, treasonous, CDC. You know, the CDC that determined a person 'with Covid' could be declared to have died 'OF Covid.' That CDC.
The CDC that used an invalid PCR test to inaccurately diagnose 'COVID'. Based on their malevolence, we don't know what mix of illnesses and medical malpractice (COvid Protocol) the patients died of.
The CDC and its shill now declare they and they alone determine what a 'real' journal is. For the rest of us, they are referring to 'controlled media.' But, scientists were reviewing each others work before the CDC launched its most recent bid to become the CDC, and so real scientists all across the world are doing peer reviews on research that exposes the CDC's lies.
Your absolute reliance on the CDC's medical regime is what I mean when I pointed to your mountains of fake data. For your arguments to work, they must take everything the CDC said as law and fact and disregard all other sources, even after the CDC has been caught lying time and time again.
By your specious logic, cigarettes are safe too.
I don't trust Big Pharma scientists any more than tobacco scientists.
Science is not based on consensus; nor on credentials.
Nice try, troll.