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Need one of those batteries for the phone. Maybe Toyota can invent a grid that can handle all that.
1 posted on 10/24/2023 1:22:01 AM PDT by Libloather
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That’s definitely better, but I need to know where are we going to get all this copper from to electrify society and how it performs when it’s towing a heavy load with headwinds in winter.

A gas vehicle might lose about 10% mileage under the most adverse conditions. What would this vehicle lose under similar conditions?


2 posted on 10/24/2023 1:26:21 AM PDT by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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“Earlier this month, Toyota CEO Koji Sato announced that the firm would partner with major Japanese OIL REFINER Idemitsu Kosan on the project to manufacture the batteries.”

So much for being ‘green’ and ‘saving the planet’.


3 posted on 10/24/2023 1:41:02 AM PDT by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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Another “perpetual motion machine?”

It travels 745 miles on a 10-minute charge?

Does that happen when it’s 20 below zero F. outside?

Will it hold that charge parked outside all night in winter?

Does that happen when it’s 120 F. outside and the air conditioning is running on high?

Does that happen when it’s pulling a trailer?


4 posted on 10/24/2023 1:55:10 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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“According to Toyota, cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.”

So at least 5 years away which probably means 8 or more. And by then every car manufacturer will have access to it also.

Range, to me, is much less important than charging speed. I usually stop every couple hundred miles, so if I can recharge that much in 5 to 10 minutes, that’d be fine.


5 posted on 10/24/2023 1:55:14 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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"'With repeated efforts involving trial and error, we have succeeded in developing a material ..."

Who would have thought of combining trial AND error? Brilliant!

7 posted on 10/24/2023 2:10:43 AM PDT by The Duke (Why do I think that the cynicism gene is going to be prevalent in future generations?)
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Interesting to me. Cathie Wood invests so heavily in Tesla because she says their battery technology is far greater than anyone else’s. Toyota seems far greater if this is true


9 posted on 10/24/2023 2:12:26 AM PDT by STJPII ( )
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EV breakthrough: Really, really long extension cord connected to a natural gas/coal fired power plant!


11 posted on 10/24/2023 2:50:06 AM PDT by twister881
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Though I will give Toyota much more benefit of the doubt, I do remember the endless threads here about Rossi’s cold fusion reactor being market ready “in a year or two”....

Yeah, bring it or stuff it.


13 posted on 10/24/2023 3:03:58 AM PDT by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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That is a lot of energy to input in ten minutes. Is it at 12 volts? Imagine the Amps! That is why the cable to your battery is so thick! That current is only a short burst to spin your engine.

The reason we have high voltage towers dominating the landscape comes down to simple physics. The loss due to resistance is the current squared times the resistance. You minimize that by making the Voltage very high. It is AC voltage because it is much easier to step up or step down AC current.

15 posted on 10/24/2023 3:16:04 AM PDT by Nateman (If Mohammad was not the Anti Christ Mad Moe definitely comes in as a Strong second.)
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“Toyota’s EV breakthrough will allow cars to travel 745 miles on a single 10 minute charge - more than DOUBLE the range of most existing electric vehicles”

and i have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn; it’s only slightly used, in great shape, and you can set up your own toll booths ... price is only $1,000.00 [i accept payment only in BitCoin, though]


16 posted on 10/24/2023 3:18:11 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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None for me, thanks. Nobody needs an EV, not even the planet. If you want one though, you can have it. You can try it and see what all the fuss is about, like taking a hit of Ecstasy. You’ll have a residual but still grossly exaggerated empathy towards everything including the bolt of lightning that nearly kills you.


17 posted on 10/24/2023 3:24:24 AM PDT by equaviator (If 60 is the new 40 then 35 must be the new 15.)
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still not buying one.


20 posted on 10/24/2023 3:43:46 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (Be not deceived, God is not mocked)
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The bad news is, you need liquid nitrogen to cool it … (/s)


23 posted on 10/24/2023 3:55:36 AM PDT by 11th_VA (<><)
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cars powered by solid-state batteries could have a range of 745 miles, a charging time of 10 minutes and hit the market in 2027 or 2028.

The 745 mile range battery could work if we triple the size and it could charge in 10 minutes if we somehow violate the laws of physics. It could be in 2027, 2037 or heck even 2525. We will get back to you when we've been able to pump get Mr Fusion working.

24 posted on 10/24/2023 3:57:11 AM PDT by Malsua
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“could offer”

Magic words and phrases like this are favored by press release and advertising copy writers, along with “up to”, “as much as”, “buy one and get one free”, and many others.

“The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away.”


26 posted on 10/24/2023 4:09:51 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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Call me when the battery life is 200,000 miles.


27 posted on 10/24/2023 4:16:21 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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While most of the auto manufacturers jumped in with both feet to try and keep up with Tesla or because Obama seized them and forced them to go EV, Toyota decided to hold back so they could come up with something practical and better. If they announce a breakthrough 10 years later, believe it.


28 posted on 10/24/2023 4:21:36 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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Could?!


29 posted on 10/24/2023 4:24:23 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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I don’t see in the article where it says that the Toyota solid state batteries don’t contain lithium. That means they DO contain lithium.


31 posted on 10/24/2023 4:26:15 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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“close to”


33 posted on 10/24/2023 4:44:07 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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