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To: JayGalt
Stop pushing Chester Arthur. You obviously do not know the history.

Stop questioning the relevance of Chester Arthur. You obviously fail to appreciate the history.

Chester Arthur was elected Vice President in 1881. Charles Garfield was elected President. A few months later, Garfield was assassinated and Chester Arthur became President. Arthur was the oath in New York and proceeded to Washington as President. Chester Arthur was born in 1829. His father was naturalized in 1842. Chester Arthur was never elected President.

Numerous candidates had foreign parents or were born outside the United States. The nitwits with the birther claims did not come out of the closet until 2008.

Hinman's accusation, as you stated, was that Arthur was a British citizen. The accusation that he was a British citizen was debunked. In fact, Arthur was a natural born citizen of the United States. Despite having a foreign parent, he was fully eligible to be first Vice President, and then President, just as Barack Obama was eligible. Just as Kamala Harris was and is eligible. Just as Vivek Ramaswamy is eligible. Like Chester Arthur, they were all born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. 14A says not a mumbling word about parents.

In any case, Arthur's father was an Irish citizen and Ireland was never part of Great Britain, and is not so now, not even Northern Ireland. The full title of the United Kingdom is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Arthur's father was born in County Antrim which is now part of Northern Ireland.

Arthur was born in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and born after the 14th Amendment. His citizenship status at birth was controlled by the 14th Amendment.

91 posted on 10/23/2023 9:17:50 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

Arthur obviously was not born after the 14th Amendment although I suppose he could have been a citizen of Vermont as well as the British Empire as Ireland was ruled over for hundreds of years in actual fact.


100 posted on 10/23/2023 9:44:09 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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To: woodpusher
The nitwits with the birther claims did not come out of the closet until 2008.

Not true, and you ought to know it. Clearly you don't bother reading the things I have told you on this issue. I even sent you a link on this point.

The issue came up with the Presidential election of Woodrow Wilson. Charles Evans Hughes, the Republican candidate, was alleged to be an illegitimate candidate precisely because of this issue.

Here is that link again. https://highlanderjuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Breckinridge-Long-A-Natural-Born-Citizen-Within.pdf

Barry Goldwater and George Romney were also challenged as to their citizenship status. Here, i'll save myself some time by linking you to another article.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-other-presidential-birther-controversies-from-american-history

As I told you before, you being such an educated man, I am flattered that you chose me to educate you further.

106 posted on 10/23/2023 9:56:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: woodpusher
Arthur was born in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and born after the 14th Amendment. His citizenship status at birth was controlled by the 14th Amendment.

I don't think I have ever before seen such a glaring error from you.

Chester A Arthur was born in 1829. The 14th was ratified in 1868.

You know this. I can only suppose you had a momentary lapse or something.

110 posted on 10/23/2023 10:01:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: woodpusher
Arthur was born in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and born after the 14th Amendment. IDTS

Chester Arthur was born in 1829
14th Amendment Passed by the Senate on June 8, 1866, and ratified two years later, on July 9, 1868.

121 posted on 10/23/2023 10:32:05 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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