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To: woodpusher
The nitwits with the birther claims did not come out of the closet until 2008.

Not true, and you ought to know it. Clearly you don't bother reading the things I have told you on this issue. I even sent you a link on this point.

The issue came up with the Presidential election of Woodrow Wilson. Charles Evans Hughes, the Republican candidate, was alleged to be an illegitimate candidate precisely because of this issue.

Here is that link again. https://highlanderjuan.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Breckinridge-Long-A-Natural-Born-Citizen-Within.pdf

Barry Goldwater and George Romney were also challenged as to their citizenship status. Here, i'll save myself some time by linking you to another article.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-other-presidential-birther-controversies-from-american-history

As I told you before, you being such an educated man, I am flattered that you chose me to educate you further.

106 posted on 10/23/2023 9:56:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Not true, and you ought to know it. Clearly you don't bother reading the things I have told you on this issue. I even sent you a link on this point.

The issue came up with the Presidential election of Woodrow Wilson. Charles Evans Hughes, the Republican candidate, was alleged to be an illegitimate candidate precisely because of this issue.

Tell me about the time Charles Evans Hughes, or anyone else, was struck from the ticket or denied the Presidency or Vice-Presidency on this issue. The only purposes served by this trash is to make conservatives look like idiots.

Barry Goldwater and George Romney were also challenged as to their citizenship status. Here, i'll save myself some time by linking you to another article.

To the best of my recollection AuH2O was the Republican nominee in 1964. Neither Goldwater nor Romney was born in one of the United States. Different issue but equally irrelevant.

https://youtu.be/0O91OrUuuYs?si=6hgxZ3HTBLwFgFI1

For something real to consider regarding Ramaswamy, consider this.

Vivek Ramaswamy copies Barack Obama's lines

0:00 [Host] they're saying that you're the
0:01 Republican Obama
0:01 [Ramaswamy] you know what I, I
0:03 actually
0:04 there are elements of that yeah that I'm
0:07 actually leaning into
0:07 [Obama] this has never
0:09 been a Democratic or Republican idea
0:11 [Ramaswamy] these are not Democrat ideas or
0:13 Republican ideas
0:13 [Obama] this is an American
0:15 idea
0:15 [Ramaswamy] these are fundamentally American
0:18 ideals
0:18 [Obama] imagine they were driving a car
0:21 and they they drove it into the ditch
0:21 [Ramaswamy] if
0:25 somebody has repeatedly crashed your car
0:27 [Obama] you can't have the keys back
0:29 [Ramaswamy] do you want to turn over the keys to the
0:31 same people who crashed it
0:31 [Obama] he said
0:32 Russia in the 1980s are now calling to
0:35 ask for their foreign policy back
0:35 [Ramaswamy] I have
0:37 a news flash the USSR does not exist
0:39 anymore
0:39 [Obama] you know the Cold War has been
0:40 over for 20 years
0:40 [Ramaswamy] it fell back in 1990.
0:43 [Obama] a skinny guy with a funny name 0:43 [Ramaswamy] who the
0:46 heck is this skinny guy with a funny
0:47 last name
0:47 [Obama] but they sense deep in their
0:50 bones
0:50 [Ramaswamy] I believe deep in my bones
0:53 [Music]
0:53 [Obama and Ramaswamy] E Pluribus Unum, out of many, one.
0:56 [Obama] We Are One people.
0:56 [Ramaswamy] I have a dream that we
0:59 can be one people again. I'm not going to
1:01 read speeches written by others. What
1:03 you're going to get from me is what's
1:04 coming from the heart my own deep
1:06 convictions
1:07 [Music]

Straight from the heart with deep convictions.

161 posted on 10/23/2023 1:53:55 PM PDT by woodpusher
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