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To: woodpusher

Stop pushing Chester Arthur. You obviously do not know the history.

Arthur was born in Fairfield, Vermont, grew up in upstate New York and practiced law in New York City. He served as quartermaster general of the New York Militia during the American Civil War. Some people tried to suggest he was born a few miles north in Canada.

If in 1881 the American public was fairly well informed about Chester A. Arthur’s earliest years, it was because of an interesting hoax. A New York attorney, Arthur P. Hinman, startled the voters of the country shortly after the election of 1880 by interviews in which he accused General Arthur of being a British subject. To support the claim, he presented an elaborate story of Arthur’s birth, purporting to show that he had been born in Canada, of a British father and an American mother. The enterprising New York Sun investigated Hinman’s tale and published a complete refutation the day after Arthur took the oath as President. His origins were widely understood when he became the twenty-first President of the United States.
https://npg.si.edu/blog/chester-arthur-birthplace-controversy-1880


55 posted on 10/23/2023 6:20:36 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: JayGalt

Whether he was born in Canada or Vermont, the controversy over Chester Arthur’s NBC status birth should instead center around his father’s citizenship which I believe was not granted until 1843, fifteen years after his son Arthur’s birth in 1829.


61 posted on 10/23/2023 6:42:21 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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To: JayGalt
Stop pushing Chester Arthur. You obviously do not know the history.

Stop questioning the relevance of Chester Arthur. You obviously fail to appreciate the history.

Chester Arthur was elected Vice President in 1881. Charles Garfield was elected President. A few months later, Garfield was assassinated and Chester Arthur became President. Arthur was the oath in New York and proceeded to Washington as President. Chester Arthur was born in 1829. His father was naturalized in 1842. Chester Arthur was never elected President.

Numerous candidates had foreign parents or were born outside the United States. The nitwits with the birther claims did not come out of the closet until 2008.

Hinman's accusation, as you stated, was that Arthur was a British citizen. The accusation that he was a British citizen was debunked. In fact, Arthur was a natural born citizen of the United States. Despite having a foreign parent, he was fully eligible to be first Vice President, and then President, just as Barack Obama was eligible. Just as Kamala Harris was and is eligible. Just as Vivek Ramaswamy is eligible. Like Chester Arthur, they were all born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. 14A says not a mumbling word about parents.

In any case, Arthur's father was an Irish citizen and Ireland was never part of Great Britain, and is not so now, not even Northern Ireland. The full title of the United Kingdom is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Arthur's father was born in County Antrim which is now part of Northern Ireland.

Arthur was born in the United States, subject to the jurisdiction thereof, and born after the 14th Amendment. His citizenship status at birth was controlled by the 14th Amendment.

91 posted on 10/23/2023 9:17:50 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: JayGalt
I don't recall if I had seen that refutation before, but the evidence that proves Chester Arthur's father was not a citizen before his birth has only came out since 2008 when this one guy started researching it and discovered the truth.

I forget his name, but he was an attorney and he wrote a lot on the topic. It wasn't Mario Apuzo, who did excellent work on the subject. I forget the other guy's name, but he is the one that broke the story that Chester A Arthur's father was not a citizen before Arthur was born.

Anyone remember that guy's name? He also used to have a website. I also remember he fancies himself as a professional gambler at cards.

92 posted on 10/23/2023 9:19:15 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: JayGalt

All: To learn more about Chester Arthur’s eligibility identity fraud see: https://www.iuniverse.com/en/bookstore/bookdetails/775911-Imposters-in-the-Oval-Office


109 posted on 10/23/2023 10:01:40 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, naturels, presidential, eligibility, kamalaharris)
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