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does the media read the bible.?

I pray for israel

I pray for discernment and understanding. for all of us

1 posted on 10/16/2023 6:45:59 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I think that way back when the Romans over ran Judea and burned the Temple, they changed the name from Judea to Palestine...to punish the Jews.

In history since then, the Roman ‘misnomer’ has bounced back and forth until the place and its name became ‘Israel’, after WWII

I could be wrong


2 posted on 10/16/2023 6:53:01 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

‘does the media read the bible.?’

maybe; anybody seen any cockatrices lately in the Gaza Strip...?


3 posted on 10/16/2023 6:53:10 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Joe?


4 posted on 10/16/2023 6:54:32 AM PDT by cuban leaf (It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he's being fooled. - Mark Twain)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

2 Kings 8:12

“Why is my lord weeping?” asked Hazael. “Because I know the harm you will do to the Israelites,” he answered. “You will set fire to their fortified places, kill their young men with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open their pregnant women.”


7 posted on 10/16/2023 6:59:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Gaza delenda est)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

The term “Peleset” (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people, who are generally identified with the Philistines,[2] or their land Philistia, starting from circa 1150 BCE during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the Medinet Habu temple which refers to the Peleset among those who fought against Egypt during Ramesses III’s reign,[3] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset’s Statue. The Assyrians called the same region “Palashtu/Palastu” or “Pilistu,” beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c. 800 BCE through to an Esarhaddon treaty more than a century later.[4][5] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.[6]

The term “Palestine” first appeared in the 5th century BCE when the ancient Greek historian Herodotus wrote of a “district of Syria, called Palaistinê” between Phoenicia and Egypt in The Histories.[7] Herodotus provides the first historical reference clearly denoting a wider region than biblical Philistia, as he applied the term to both the coastal and the inland regions such as the Judean Mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[8][9][10][11] Later Greek writers such as Aristotle, Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[12] There is not currently evidence of the name on any Hellenistic coin or inscription.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine


8 posted on 10/16/2023 7:01:41 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Question: When Jesus, Mary and Joseph fled to Egypt to escape Herod, was it to Gaza?


10 posted on 10/16/2023 7:05:08 AM PDT by allendale
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for pointing this out. We need to start calling these people by their real name, Philistines.


15 posted on 10/16/2023 7:31:36 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

very roughly ...

the ancient Philistines were a separate people and during the rise of the Israel remained independent.

Following the division of Israel, and then Israel’s being taken away in captivity, various empires to the north of Israel dominated both Israel and Gaza; this continued even after the return of Israel.

Come the Roman period, Rome displaced the Arab and Persian rulers, and ruled both Israel and Gaza; this continued through the 2nd Jewish Revolt and the dispersion of the Jews, and into the Byzantine (or, Eastern Roman) period.

Upon the rise of Islam, various Muslim empires (or, Caliphates) ruled both Israel and Gaza, with brief interruption by Crusaders.

Eventually, the Ottomans ruled (approx. from the 15th Century to WWI).

The Brits ruled the region from 1918 to 1946 (from the end of WWI to the end of WWII).

In 1947, Israel declared independence, and Egypt ruled Gaza.

In 1967, Israel turned back Arab invaders and gained control of Gaza and the Sinai from Egypt

In 1973, Israel returned the Sinai to Egypt, but Egypt refused to accept Gaza.

In 2005, Israel withdrew from Gaza. At the time, it was hoped that the people of Gaza would form a democratic government and busy themselves with building up their economy, etc. Some even thought Gaza would become the Arab Riviera, with tourists attracted to its beaches on the Mediterranean.

But, no, the majority in Gaza wanted war, not peace. They reject the two-state solution and want to drive the Jews into the sea like the Arabs tried to do three times. The only difference, now, is that the people of Gaza depend on the Shi’a Muslims of ancient Persia, present day Iran, instead of relying on their fellow Arabs who are mostly Sunni.

Gaza has been a lawless, barbaric place since the time of the judges. Hence, the Biblical story of Samson and Delilah. Nobody wants them, or should want them.

Their rejection of the law of war, for example, in their slaughter of civilians, means they aren’t covered by the law of war. They are a piratical people and are subject to summary judgment, including annihilation as a people.


20 posted on 10/16/2023 8:34:04 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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The Septuagint text of Isaiah 14.29 and 31 does not have Palestina but rather allophyloi meaning "foreigners" (of other tribe).
21 posted on 10/16/2023 8:38:34 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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When Palestine Meant Israel, David Jacobson, BAR 27:03, May/Jun 2001.

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As early as the Histories of Herodotus, written in the second half of the fifth century B.C.E., the term Palaistinê is used to describe not just the geographical area where the Philistines lived, but the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt—in other words, the Land of Israel. Herodotus, who had traveled through the area, would have had firsthand knowledge of the land and its people. Yet he used Palaistinê to refer not to the Land of the Philistines, but to the Land of Israel. His understanding of the geographical extent of Palestine is reflected in his reference to the population of Palaistinê as being circumcised.2 However, the Philistines, as we know from the Bible, were uncircumcised. The Israelites, of course, were circumcised. Herodotus seems to have known about the Jewish people and their history because he mentions the destruction of Sennacherib’s army by an act of God.3 This can only be the same natural disaster that relieved Jerusalem of the Assyrian siege in the late eighth century B.C.E. (see 2 Kings 19:35–36).c

Like Herodotus, Aristotle gives the strong impression that when he uses the term Palestine, he is referring to the Land of Israel. In his description of the Dead Sea, Aristotle says that it is situated in Palestine.4 The Land of the Philistines, however, was separated from the Dead Sea by the hills and wilderness of Judea, so Aristotle could hardly have intended the two to be directly connected! He, too, seemed to identify the Land of Israel as Palestine.

In the second century B.C.E., a Greek writer, perhaps the historian Polemo of Ilium, made a similar link between the people of Israel and Palestine. Referring to the Exodus of the Children of Israel, the author claimed that a portion of the Egyptian army “was expelled from Egypt and established itself in the country called Palestinian Syria.”5

Roman writers continued to use the name Palaestina for the whole Land of Israel, just as Herodotus and Aristotle had done. The early-first-century C.E. poet Ovid writes of “the seventh day feast that the Syrian of Palestine observes,” by which he may have meant the Jewish Sabbath observances.6 Another Latin poet, Statius, and the writer Dio Chrysostom use “Palestine” and “Palestinian” in the same sense. Chrysostom, like Aristotle before him, speaks of the Dead Sea being in the interior of Palestine.7

Likewise, the Jewish philosopher Philo of Alexandria, who lived in the early first century C.E., occasionally uses the name Palestine when referring to the Land of Israel of his day.8 For example, he remarks that a considerable proportion of Palestinian Syria is occupied by the populous nation of the Jews.

...

The case of the first-century C.E. Jewish historian Josephus is particularly interesting. In his Antiquities of the Jews, he consistently refers to the Philistines as Palaistinoi. This is the earliest clear identification of the name Palestine with the Philistines. Josephus doubtless believed that the name Palestine was a transliteration of the ancient Semitic name for the Philistines, but even he occasionally uses Palaistinoi in the wider sense. He mentions, for example, that Trachonitis and Damascus are “situated between Palestine and Coele Syria [Syria Proper].”9 At the very end of his Antiquities of the Jews, he remarks that his account details “the events that befell us Jews in Egypt, in Syria, and in Palestine.”10 These remarks indicate that Josephus was aware that Palestine had a geographical meaning that was much wider than the Land of the Philistines.

Hadrian officially renamed Judea Syria Palaestina after his Roman armies suppressed the Bar-Kokhba Revolt (the Second Jewish Revolt) in 135 C.E.; this is commonly viewed as a move intended to sever the connection of the Jews to their historical homeland.23 However, that Jewish writers such as Philo, in particular, and Josephus, who flourished while Judea was still formally in existence, used the name Palestine for the Land of Israel in their Greek works, suggests that this interpretation of history is mistaken. Hadrian’s choice of Syria Palaestina may be more correctly seen as a rationalization of the name of the new province, in accordance with its area being far larger than geographical Judea. Indeed, Syria Palaestina had an ancient pedigree that was intimately linked with the area of greater Israel.

https://web.archive.org/web/20110725184107/http://cojs.org/cojswiki/When_Palestine_Meant_Israel%2C_David_Jacobson%2C_BAR_27%3A03%2C_May/Jun_2001.

https://www.academia.edu/43872189/When_Palestine_Meant_Israel


24 posted on 10/16/2023 10:50:06 AM PDT by FarCenter
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