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To: fieldmarshaldj; OKSooner
fieldmarshaldj: "I’m reminded of then-Sen. Bob Dole’s biting remarks to then-Sen. Fritz Mondale in the 1976 Vice-Presidential Debate about the 'Democrat Wars.' "

This much at least we agree on.
But Democrat Wars didn't begin with Wilson and WWI.
They go all the way back to the first Democrats, Jefferson and the Barbary Wars, Madison and the War of 1812, Polk and the Mexican War.
The US Civil War was a war Southern Democrats declared against the United States lead by Republicans.

So Democrats have always loved to start wars and since WWII they also love to see the US defeated, and the more humiliatingly, the better they love it, prime examples being Vietnam and Afghanistan.
Their reasons for starting wars include Democrats' globalist outlook and their reasons for loving to see us defeated are because it's usually more conservative Republicans who actually fight wars, and any defeat for Republicans is a win for Democrats.

In short, Democrats are historically far more evil than most people imagine.

fieldmarshaldj: "Anything to try to get the public’s mind off of domestic failures across the board and to try to gin up fake popular solidarity to get behind the Pedo’s trifecta of wars and help him “win” in 2024."

All that being true, the fact remains that Vlad the Invader is a clear and present danger to not just Ukraine, but to every country near Russia, from the Baltics to the Caucuses.
The analogy today to the 1930s Rhineland, Austria & Czechoslovakia is almost perfect.
The lessons of history could not be clearer.

If we ignore such threats when they are relatively easy to defeat, then we will soon enough face a power we cannot defeat short of a desperate total war with tens of millions of deaths resulting.

When I was a young man that lesson from history was obvious to everyone, Republican, Democrat, conservative or liberal -- only wild-eyed leftists wanted to see the Old Soviets & Chi-Coms victorious.

446 posted on 10/24/2023 4:52:10 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK; fieldmarshaldj; Jim Robinson
"In short, Democrats are historically far more evil than most people imagine."

True statement, and ironic coming from one who supports Biden's war/notwar against Russia, and is unwilling to hold either the corrupt money-grubbing regime in Ukraine up to any scrutiny, or... come to think of it, any criticism or questioning of the Biden regime's actions on your part have been conspicuous in their absence.

So again...

Democrats are evil.

Joe Biden is a Democrat.

The people who own and operate Joe Biden are Democrats.

Joe Biden is the chin-balled face of the Democrat regime pushing war/notwar in Ukraine.

So which way is it, really? Democrats, Joe Biden, and his Democrat handlers evil, or not evil? Oh wait, you've answered that already.

How about Democrat/Joe Biden war/notwar, or foreign entanglement in the service of a corrupt CIA junta in Ukraine yes or no? Not even a little scrutiny on your part? Frankly what does that make you?

"All that being true, the fact remains that Vlad the Invader is a clear and present danger to not just Ukraine, but to every country near Russia, from the Baltics to the Caucuses."

For the sake of conversation one accepts your premise. That's why NATO exists, and that's why President Trump called several, perhaps all NATO countries to start pulling their own weight. Since the bloodbath in the service of corruption and money laundering began in Ukraine, Poland has conspicuously cut Ukraine off and is not prioritizing their own defense by conserving their resources. Germany is tapping the brakes a bit too. It would seem that one who claims to be rational would begin to ask some questions about Democrat Joe Biden's war/notwar at this point, but what we get from you is some blather about some treaty that was signed by Bill Clinton with the previous, actually legitimate government of Ukraine that preceded the Zelensky/CIA junta.

Tell you what, I'm not gonna stoop to someone else's level of name calling and accusation, but how about just you and I agree to disagree about Evil Democrat Joe's war/notwar? I don't think I can reason you out of anything that you weren't reasoned into in the first place. There's something else going on here with you that I choose to leave alone.

Thank you.

451 posted on 10/24/2023 6:49:17 AM PDT by OKSooner (Be especially sure to take extra wool socks.)
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To: BroJoeK

Typo correction: “NOW prioritizing”.


452 posted on 10/24/2023 6:51:34 AM PDT by OKSooner (Be especially sure to take extra wool socks.)
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