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To: fieldmarshaldj
When pounding the patriotic flag, as if our United States was ever fully "pure," one forgets when one wishes to forget that no government and no people are ever fully "sinless."

One reads:

Nazism in the Americas Wiki

Hitler's Influence in the US Was Greater Than You May Think Time, 4 October 2018

The long history of American Nazism — and why we can't forget it

Nazi supporters in the U.S. before the war

On this same topic -- National Socialism and its adherents -- one reads"
"Video: Kiev's far-right groups refuse to disarm," 3 April 2014, France 24.
Source: https://www.france24.com/en/20140403-video-kiev-far-right-groups-refuse-stand-down-ukraine-maidan-russia

"Ukraine's Got a Real Problem with Far-Right Violence." 20 June 2018, Freedom House / Atlantic Council.
Source" https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/ukraine-s-got-a-real-problem-with-far-right-violence-and-no-rt-didn-t-write-this-headline/

"Hundreds march in Ukraine in annual tribute to Nazi collaborator," 4 January 2021, Times of Israel.
Source: https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator/

"How the far-right took top posts in Ukraine's power vacuum," 5 March 2014,Channel 14
Source: https://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right

"Nazi symbols, salutes on display at Ukrainian nationalist march," 30 April 2018, Times of Israel
Source: https://www.jta.org/2018/04/29/global/nazi-symbols-salutes-display-ukrainian-nationalist-march

"Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict," 13 December 2014, BBC
Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

"Video shows Ukrainian soldiers wearing Nazi symbols," 9 September 2014, The Hill
Source: https://thehill.com/policy/international/217108-ukrainian-soldiers-seen-wearing-gear-displaying-nazi-symbols/

"A far-right battalion has a key role in Ukraine's resistance. Its neo-Nazi history has been exploited by Putin," 31 March 2022, CNN
Source: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/29/europe/ukraine-azov-movement-far-right-intl-cmd/index.html

"Commentary: Ukraine's neo-Nazi problem," Reuters, 19 March 2018
Source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY

Pardon not making all easy links, but the content is there. One should stand against all authoritarians, all totalitarians, wherever one finds them. Communists as one finds today in the Russian Federation, neo-Nazis in Europe, the Jew-hating militants of Hamas, everywhere.

To play the "my authoritarian isn't as bad as your authoritarian" is a fool's game. Ditto with "my corruption isn't as bad as...."

196 posted on 10/15/2023 9:28:56 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time; fieldmarshaldj
Worldtraveler once upon a time: "One should stand against all authoritarians, all totalitarians, wherever one finds them.
Communists as one finds today in the Russian Federation, neo-Nazis in Europe, the Jew-hating militants of Hamas, everywhere.
To play the "my authoritarian isn't as bad as your authoritarian" is a fool's game.
Ditto with "my corruption isn't as bad as....""

I'd like to acknowledge your 100% sane and reasonable post here, and expresse how astonished I am to see you siding with our pro-fascists lunatics like fieldmarshaldj.

He is a crazy-man and you really don't want to be on his fascist side, unless you are just as crazy, but your post here tells me you are not crazy at all, far from it, you fully understand the nature of our enemies.

Thanks for your words I've quoted above.

Now, on your articles about corruption in Ukraine, we might notice that all are quite old and do not necessarily reflect realities today, which include a Jewish President Zelenskyy cracking down on alleged Nazis in Ukraine's government.

Also, factually, "corruption", meaning illegal profiting, is normally a lesser category of crime from unprovoked invasion and mass-murder of a foreign country.
You simply cannot logically say: "because some Ukrainians were corrupt, therefore Vlad the Invader was justified in military operations to murder, seize and annex Ukrainian people and territories."

You just cannot logically use Ukraine's alleged corruption to justify Vlad's mass murders there.

292 posted on 10/16/2023 5:50:59 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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