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Israel prided itself over surveillance. Then, Hamas outmaneuvered by… going dark
Bloomberg via Hindustan Times ^ | 10/10/2023 | unk

Posted on 10/10/2023 5:47:02 AM PDT by logi_cal869

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: cointel; hamas; iran; irondome; israel; israelattacked; israeliranhamaswar; wot
Expected, especially considering the source.

But it's the absence which is interesting.

(mole)

We're next.

1 posted on 10/10/2023 5:47:02 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

Reminds me very much of the war games in the south US, where one general, instead of using electronic comms, used soldiers on motorcycles to carry messages. He absolutely annihilated the other side. Might have been that Cajun guy.


2 posted on 10/10/2023 5:59:58 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: logi_cal869

Old school communications. Used runners like we did in WWI.


3 posted on 10/10/2023 6:00:54 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: jagusafr

Millennium Challenge 2002, LTG Van Riper (ret). He made his point.


4 posted on 10/10/2023 6:03:51 AM PDT by Jonah Hex
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To: logi_cal869

True but the IDF did learn some Tik-Tok dances that celebrate LGBTQI


5 posted on 10/10/2023 6:05:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: logi_cal869
The Times of Israel reported Monday that Egyptian intelligence had repeatedly warned Egypt that Hamas was planning “something big,” but that Israeli officials chose to focus on the West Bank instead of Gaza.
6 posted on 10/10/2023 6:12:21 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

There were definitely some traitors inside. There always are.


7 posted on 10/10/2023 6:14:55 AM PDT by MNDude
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To: tlozo

Yup.

There are multiple aspects to what they are arrogantly defining (i.e., gaslighting) as an ‘intelligence failure’.


8 posted on 10/10/2023 6:15:08 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Why is Israel gloating? Why are Americans over in Israel. Trump called this Hamas event to happen in August when Biden released the funds to Iran. The Americans should not be in a War Zone. The Parents of the kidnapped children should examine their own motivations for taking their children into a war zone.


9 posted on 10/10/2023 6:44:48 AM PDT by chopperk (i)
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To: chopperk

(tin hat on)

IMHO the $6 billion (or $16 billion) was a tacit green light. ‘Wink, wink’ and a nod. They then picked a date.

This event is foreboding (to a distinct minority) of what’s to come here. We are governed by evil and we ain’t seen nothing yet.

(tin hat off)


10 posted on 10/10/2023 6:50:38 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

I don’t think that’s tinfoil hat thinking at all. In fact I think it’s damn near obvious. “We are governed by evil and we ain’t seen nothing yet.” Yes. That.


11 posted on 10/10/2023 7:02:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Jesus is LORD and Savior! And Donald Trump is President of the United States of America.)
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There’s a huge lesson to be learned here....keeping 2 million people in a fenced area in large concentrations, knowing you can deny them food, water and energy whenever you feel like it, has dire consequences.

Turns out if you keep people in such conditions, they have nothing better to do than to plan their revenge.

People who have no hope are hard to fight because they don’t care if they die.


12 posted on 10/10/2023 7:10:56 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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Israel’s high-tech $billion dollar “Iron Dome” failed to stop Hamas massacring young Israelis and other civilians in an “embarrassing intel failure.’

The Iron Dome was promoted as supposedly able to repel what happened.

Even more troubling, American taxpayers financed Israel’s $$billion dollar “Iron Dome,” reassured it was an answer to their pressing security needs.

The U.S. stupidly purchased two of them for our defense.

Americans continue to be gaslighted to promote the hidden agenda of others.


What Is Israel’s Iron Dome Anti-Rocket System?
Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/10/how-hamas-entered-israel/
› business › 2023/10/08


13 posted on 10/10/2023 7:13:41 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)
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To: MinorityRepublican

That’s what I was thinking. Very low tech solution in a high tech environment.
Runners, word-of-mouth, written orders.
Reminds me of communication during our Civil War. Perhaps Hamas even has spies in the Israeli government.

At any rate, they caught Israel totally off guard.


14 posted on 10/10/2023 7:26:45 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: Liz

Iron Dome isn’t perfect, but I’d far rather have something like it over me than nothing. One issue is simply that any anti-missile system can be overwhelmed by sheer numbers, and that is what Hamas clearly did launching thousands of rockets in short order.


15 posted on 10/10/2023 7:29:08 AM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: jagusafr

Israel felt safe under their Iron Dome shield.

Muslims attacked with paragliders, undetected by the Iron Dome system.


16 posted on 10/10/2023 8:08:23 AM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: defconw

Ping


17 posted on 10/10/2023 11:30:38 AM PDT by cibco
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To: logi_cal869

United States completely missed this too. On September 29 our intelligent agencies said that the Middle East is safer than it’s ever been and decades.


18 posted on 10/10/2023 6:08:15 PM PDT by BushCountry (A properly cast vote (1 day voting) can save you $3.00 a gallon.)
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To: Liz

You do understand who put them there, and for this exact reason, right? That used to be part of Egypt until Egypt unclaimed it. Israel is forbidden by “international law” from annexing it and fixing it.


19 posted on 10/11/2023 7:18:05 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: airborne

Possibly undetected. Certainly deprioritized when rockets are flying around.


20 posted on 10/11/2023 7:20:04 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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