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If RFK Jr. Runs As Independent, Biden Is Cooked
dickmorris.com ^ | 10/2/2023 | Dick Morris

Posted on 10/02/2023 1:58:14 PM PDT by Signalman

As long as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. focuses his ambitions on a Democratic primary challenge to President Joe Biden, he will do little damage to him.

But if Kennedy runs as an independent on a third-party line, Biden’s chances of winning reelection next year are over.

Pollster John McLaughlin shows in a recent survey Kennedy winning 15% of the vote in a Democratic primary.

But the McLaughlin survey also shows that in a general election Kennedy draws 2-to-1 more from Biden’s voters than he does from former President Donald Trump’s.

Indeed, I believe any third candidate would likely drain whatever life is left in a Biden reelection.

Even Cornell West, a Black scholar and activist, is running as an independent.

He would draw 6% of the vote, most of it coming out of Biden’s hide.

In a two-way race of Trump vs. Biden, McLaughlin has Trump ahead by four points.

But with West in the race as a third candidate, Trump wins 43-38.

Oddly, the self-destructive Democratic Party is doing everything it can to induce Kennedy to jump ship and run as a third-party candidate.

Biden has refused to debate him or even to acknowledge that he exists.

That’s no way to treat a member of your own party, particularly one who trails you by 30 points.

Biden should be besieging Kennedy with love and favors to keep him from an independent bid.

In fact, the Biden people are even trying to block Kennedy from winning delegates on the ground that he is campaigning for himself in contravention of the party rules.

They seem bent on hounding Kennedy, a member of the party’s most iconic family, out of the primary.

Kennedy has been running as an insurgent Democrat, true to the party’s principles but willing to take on the various establishments and interest groups that control it.

He rails against mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations, calling for more clinical trials before an even wider distribution of the shots.

He supports a border wall and speaks passionately about the harm illegal immigration does to the working poor.

He is outspoken about the military-industrial complex and is a pacifist when it comes to support for Ukraine in defending itself against Russia.

Were he to run as an independent, he would harvest bushels of votes from those who already have decided to vote against Trump, but at the same time don’t like Biden and are deeply concerned about his fitness for office.

Were Biden not the incumbent, Kennedy would pose a real challenge in the primary.

But with the Democratic party faithful paralyzed by fear of Trump, few feel free to throw their support behind Kennedy.

But if Kennedy runs as third party candidate, Biden’s support will crack — and all the king’s horses and all the king’s men won’t be able to put his candidacy back together again.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aoc; cornelwest; dickmorris; kennedy; nevertrumpers; rfkjr; robertfkennedyjr
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I think it's less than a 50/50 chance Biden will be the Dem nominee.
1 posted on 10/02/2023 1:58:14 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

In Michigan a few days ago, Trump told us bidAn is gone in 5 months “or less”.


2 posted on 10/02/2023 2:00:31 PM PDT by C210N (We're at war: Make them have to cheat so much it becomes comical, then ridicule them into oblivion.)
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To: Signalman

Bfl


3 posted on 10/02/2023 2:00:37 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Signalman

Were I the GOP, I would not invite RFK-jr to any debates. Let him be on the stage with Biden or Big Mike.


4 posted on 10/02/2023 2:00:58 PM PDT by llevrok (Aunt Bee was the town bicycle)
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To: Signalman

they can run Biden’s full diaper, the election is fixed.


5 posted on 10/02/2023 2:01:06 PM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: Signalman
I think it's less than a 50/50 chance Biden will be the Dem nominee.

Incumbency is a HUGE advantage. The Dems would be stupid to deny it. In the last 100 years every incumbent ran, although LBJ dropped out.

6 posted on 10/02/2023 2:02:59 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Signalman

Biden has been excused from the ticket. I don’t know who is the Establishment choice, but it ain’t Bobby Junior.


7 posted on 10/02/2023 2:04:45 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Signalman

Look for talk of a Trump Kennedy ticket.


8 posted on 10/02/2023 2:05:32 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: Signalman

I saw an article that said that RFK Jr.’s campaign had done some polling, and he supposedly took twice as many votes from Trump as from Biden. I really hope that’s not true.

But it’s too early for polls to be meaningful anyway — and that’s if you believe that they’re done honestly and correctly!


9 posted on 10/02/2023 2:05:39 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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If RFK starts doing interviews on MSNBC then we will know he’s hurting Trump more than Biden
IF main stream media ignores him than he’s hurting Biden more.


10 posted on 10/02/2023 2:06:11 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Signalman

If the democrats were smart, they would put Kennedy in as their candidate.

But they aren’t known for wisdom or smarts.


11 posted on 10/02/2023 2:06:39 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: navymom1
Look for talk of a Trump Kennedy ticket.

Please, no! Kennedy is a left-wing crackpot.

12 posted on 10/02/2023 2:07:23 PM PDT by Alvin Diogenes
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To: Alvin Diogenes

Yes. That is what I’m told.


13 posted on 10/02/2023 2:09:08 PM PDT by navymom1
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To: Signalman

Easy solution, Dick - just tell Hillary that you can no longer tolerate having RFK Jr. around.


14 posted on 10/02/2023 2:09:33 PM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: escapefromboston

More broadly, how Liberal Media either Welcomes JFKjr or trashes him
will tell us all we need to know.


15 posted on 10/02/2023 2:10:41 PM PDT by tennmountainman (FUJB)
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To: BigFreakinToad

And RFK is being used by Deep State as a place to stash flipped Trump votes...

Deep State loves those electronic voting machines.


16 posted on 10/02/2023 2:12:55 PM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: Signalman

Cornell West might hurt Biden (if people actually vote for him as an Independent, and not just as a shot across the bow in the primary), but RFK, Jr. is pretty much tailor made to lead Qanon away from any Republican candidate that is not Trump (and possibly from him too).

RFK, Jr. has devoted most of his adult life to trying to talk people out of vaccinating their children, and I don’t think that will go over with Democrats the way it will with Republicans, just the way things have gone the past five or ten years. He’s also not going to be able to walk away from decades of his public stands on things.


17 posted on 10/02/2023 2:14:38 PM PDT by BlackAdderess (Haley 2024)
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To: Alvin Diogenes

Sadly, climate change is his cult of choice. He’s okay on some very important things but would sell us all out for some carbon credits which would erase the good he could do.


18 posted on 10/02/2023 2:15:21 PM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Signalman

(Biden Is Cooked)

A potato is often baked or fried.

Though fried sounds more like Hunter.


19 posted on 10/02/2023 2:17:28 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: nickcarraway

Yep and incumbent Jimmy Carter, who had a better economic/domestics/foreign policy then Joe Biden lost in one of the top 5 the biggest landslide in US history

Biden is dead weight on the Democrat ticket. They know it. Their only hope is a 3rd party spoiler or Biden being unable to be on the ticket

I hope the Secret Service has it very best people on Biden. I would have them add coverage. It would be really useful to the Democrat political machine if something happened to Biden. Especially if they have a “MAGA extremist” to blame it on.


20 posted on 10/02/2023 2:18:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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