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Should women be banned from the armed forces? If so, why? ["inherent biological differences...the biggest factor is our biological programming to be protective of women"]
quora.com ^ | Jan 6, 2023 | Beni Habzay Former [Isreali] Infantry soldier

Posted on 09/23/2023 1:12:35 PM PDT by daniel1212

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To: daniel1212

For the Chicoms, Islam, etc, people (men and women) are just property, commodities, material. In the civilized world, we cherish womanhood.

We see today just how little the left really cares about anything, except power. For decades the democRATS were supposedly the supporters of feminism. As soon as one Trans made news......oh well, women can stuff it. Incredible high school and college female athletes futures were destroyed. Degenerate men put a dress on, and now they can walk into a little girls bathroom. Some 16 female college athletes protested men undressing in the women’s locker room. The college suggested the 16 protestors need to ‘get their mind right’ and develop more sensitivity.

I believe the tide will turn, and I pray that those people with real gender dysphoria receive the counseling, therapy, and support they need.


21 posted on 09/23/2023 1:43:02 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: daniel1212

Depends if you’re thinking about 20th Century warfare or 21st century warfare.

Don’t forget the real smarts behind the moon landing were female mathematicians.

Women can make excellent covert agents if their emotional intelligence and social engineering training is good enough.

Women can also be brilliant mechanics.

The problem isn’t men and women mixing together, it’s that men still insist on sticking women on pedestals or treating them like sex objects who’re the problem.

It’s also the reason why people who get massively pissed off about gays in the military to the point where they can’t do their job properly are the ones who should be kicked out first - they’re the ones who can’t control themselves, and they’re the ones acting unprofessionally.

The current wars and the wars to come will need PROFESSIONAL soldiers, pilots, ship crews and Cyber specialists - people who can keep their thoughts on the job instead of their minds constantly wandering speculatively into the pants of their colleagues.

If you want a retarded, sex-obsessed, unprofessional army that’s only good for taking bullets, copy Russia’s motley crews of mobiks.


22 posted on 09/23/2023 1:47:14 PM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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To: MalPearce

You make a lot of good posts, but that one was silly.


23 posted on 09/23/2023 1:51:04 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: one guy in new jersey

I Corinthians 11:3 states it plainly.


24 posted on 09/23/2023 1:51:16 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing)
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To: daniel1212

If said woman’s name is on the democRAT voter roll, she not only should be allowed. She should be drafted. And sent to the front lines of combat. Sans any weapon other than her shrieking, shrewish voice. (Something about “I am woman; hear me roar”)


25 posted on 09/23/2023 1:53:17 PM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.." )
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To: Yo-Yo

Women used to be restricted to 2% of the military, that allowed for Nurses, Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants in finance and such.

People forget that even daily non-combat work is not suited for females, digging entrenchments and fox holes, handling heavy things, replacing tracks and even truck tires, handling large cooking pots holding many gallons of food at more than 8 pounds per gallon, watch the females trying to handle and use those 50 pound Jerry cans of water or fuel, the list is endless. Either they can’t do it, or they need help, but even if it gets done, it is slower, more laborious, ties up more personnel, time and resources, now magnify that effect throughout the mass military, it is a diminishing of effectiveness and a reduction of per capita strength, suddenly “a fully manned crew of 220” doesn’t really mean exactly that, it means “a 220 count of people” with overall reduced capabilities.

We see all this in civilian life, sports, construction, the separation of duties and capabilities is so natural that we don’t even notice it, but we live by it, the military consists of all this, except much worse, it is rugged, outdoor living where everything is heavy and hard and requires muscles, and on the bad days, you have 6 foot Soviet paratroopers landing on your rear echelon troops ripping their throats out with their bare hands.


26 posted on 09/23/2023 1:53:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: daniel1212

No! This is a man’s job. Period.


27 posted on 09/23/2023 1:55:20 PM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: peggybac

Oops, I meant YES!


28 posted on 09/23/2023 1:55:57 PM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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To: daniel1212

“the biggest factor is our biological programming to be protective of women”

Then why is there such a need for battered women’s shelters?

Women don’t need to be in a frontline infantry outfit simply because they’re not as strong as men, but women can be very effective in other military roles


29 posted on 09/23/2023 1:56:12 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“They get infections.”

Yes, cooties.


30 posted on 09/23/2023 2:02:08 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: BusterDog

Our military leadership is already long fluid. Our combat effort will be flaccid. Let the feminists defend us guys while we waste away on fentanyl and porn...that’s already the policy.


31 posted on 09/23/2023 2:02:35 PM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: MalPearce
The problem isn’t men and women mixing together, it’s that men still insist on sticking women on pedestals or treating them like sex objects who’re the problem.

That is hard wired and is not going to change no matter how much social engineering there is. We need to accept it rather than pretend that we can change it.

It’s also the reason why people who get massively pissed off about gays in the military to the point where they can’t do their job properly are the ones who should be kicked out first - they’re the ones who can’t control themselves, and they’re the ones acting unprofessionally.

Homosexuals are sexual deviants who cannot control their lust. There, I said it! Their presence is contrary to good morale and conduct. Unable to control their sexual desires, they target others. They also form cliques within any organization that is disruptive of good order. They should never have been allowed to serve.

Men and women are different and have different roles in society an in the family. This is by God's design. Why is this eternal truth so hard to accept today?

32 posted on 09/23/2023 2:02:52 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: daniel1212

From combat yes, from the military, no.


33 posted on 09/23/2023 2:04:26 PM PDT by Fai Mao (SUtarve the beast and steal its food!)
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To: ansel12
People forget that even daily non-combat work is not suited for females, … handling large cooking pots holding many gallons of food at more than 8 pounds per gallon.

Which is why most professional chefs are men. Women can be great cooks, at the domestic scale, but find it difficult at the industrial scale. This is biology, not discrimination.

34 posted on 09/23/2023 2:06:35 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: daniel1212

Throughout my life, I have been able to survive several dangerous/life-threatening situations; armed robbery, active shooter, flash flood, attempted sexual assault, to name the biggest ones.

Because of my experiences growing up, I was able to keep my wits and fight through it.

For example, in middle school I was jumped by five girls (one was a good six inches taller and 50 lbs. heavier) and sent all of them to the nurse’s office. It wasn’t the first girl I sent to the nurse and it wouldn’t be the last.

I was not a tough girl looking for trouble. I lived a quiet life but I refused to be cowed by bullies. Every bully that ever messed with someone in my presence or with me regretted it. I pummeled one so badly her family went to the police, attempting to file charges.

The guy who jumped me did so on my college campus in the middle of the day in the parking lot. I was in a leg cast from a knee injury and he must have thought I was an easy target. His mistake; my brothers taught me how to fight.

That being said, there is no way I would ever want to do hand to hand combat with someone like my husband. One punch from him would unquestionably dislocate my jaw (no, my husband has never raised a hand to me. He is a loving protector). Even at peak physical strength, I paled in comparison. For example, when we moved, he could easily pick up in his arms something that I would need to use my back and legs for.

My husband and I had a similar conversation today.

Men do not fight for abstract notions like “democracy.” They fight to protect their families. With so many women screaming about how they hate men and don’t need them, is it any surprise that men are turning away when they see a woman getting attacked? Handle it yourself, Boss Babe.

Anything that damages mission readiness and unit cohesion should be removed from our armed forces. Units should not be co-mingled. If the men are spending more time babysitting the women instead of completing the objective, that is a recipe for failure.


35 posted on 09/23/2023 2:11:19 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: daniel1212

Military hopefuls should be judged on merit only. Period.


36 posted on 09/23/2023 2:12:21 PM PDT by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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To: daniel1212

Women can play a vital roll in the military “in the rear with the gear.” They do not belong in combat rolls.


37 posted on 09/23/2023 2:24:34 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: FreedomPoster

I live in an area with regular wildfires. Although women wildland firefighters are not the majority, they are not uncommon. After talking with some of the men and some of the women in the units, the women pull their weight. The standards are different from urban fire fighting. Everyone has to carry a pack weighing at least 40 pounds plus equipment.


38 posted on 09/23/2023 2:29:53 PM PDT by spaced
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To: TheWriterTX

Good observations.

If women are the fighters then what is there for men to protect?

If a tribe is sending its childbearing-age women to die in battle then what future is there for that tribe and what are they fighting for anyway?

How would America have survived if half of its war dead in the Revolutionary War and the Civil War had been its young childbearing age females? Any mathematicians here?


39 posted on 09/23/2023 2:35:24 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: redfreedom

” I can see this demoralizing any unit.”

You might be surprised. Gender differences have been pounded into our kids for many years through literature, school curriculum, political observations through the media, and the efforts to muddy the message with religion of sexual deviance have all placed the new people in our society on a path to confusion and cause them not to take a definitive stand on the topic one way or another. So it becomes a non-entity whether it causes problems for the mission or not. And it is worked around with substandard participation.

There will always be a need for women in the military. There are many jobs they are very good at that can free up men to do the jobs that women are unable to accomplish due to physical set backs. Most people don’t know the requirements for the jobs in the business and don’t understand that the business has been lowering the women’s requirements, thus standards, to accomplish the mission sine the inception of women into the general population of the military mostly in the mid 70’s after the Vietnam War. And that was not done to improve their standing in the business but to improve the men with greater standards of physical and mental competitiveness.

See if you can find the physical fitness requirements after the women’s entries and you’ll find the difficulty has increased for the men until they weren’t able to accomplish them and they were lowered again. And it became appearance in uniform way too much and not physical capacity. So the standard was actually lowered over time. But that made it easier for women to be competitive with the men on paper, not in reality.

wy69


40 posted on 09/23/2023 2:37:53 PM PDT by whitney69
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