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To: BroJoeK
The elites and the leadership of a society determine where it is going in the future.

Don't believe me ? Look at the changes in attitude and BEHAVIOR on LGBT.

Russia is one of the few countries in the Western world in which religion is becoming increasingly important and not less.

To establish his authority on the Russian society, President Vladimir Putin has shaped a doctrine mobilizing the entire Russian society against a perceived Western "decadence". He has declared that Russian traditional family values are a bulwark against the West's "so-called tolerance -- genderless and infertile."

The first Cold War was a clash between Western democracy and the Soviet dictatorship of the proletariat. The new Cold War is a one between Western liberalism and Russian conservatism.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9063/putin-piety-church

35 posted on 09/20/2023 2:46:31 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright
Reverend Wright: "To establish his authority on the Russian society, President Vladimir Putin has shaped a doctrine mobilizing the entire Russian society against a perceived Western "decadence".
He has declared that Russian traditional family values are a bulwark against the West's "so-called tolerance -- genderless and infertile."
The first Cold War was a clash between Western democracy and the Soviet dictatorship of the proletariat.
The new Cold War is a one between Western liberalism and Russian conservatism"

I call that total BS, Vlad the Invader's political opportunism, and nothing more.
In fact, nearly half of Russians are non-religious and less than half identify as Christians.
As for alleged Russian family values, Russia's birthrate is among the world's lowest, 25% less than the USA, lower even than China's and roughly the same as Germany and Austria, though not as low as Japan & Korea.
Yes, Ukraine's birthrate numbers are slightly lower than Russia's, but I would suspect Ukraine's are skewed by Russia's invasions and population disruptions since 2014.

If you look at Russian corruption, it is among the world's worst, certainly by western standards, and even more corrupt than Ukraine.

From this I conclude that all talk about a "virtuous Russia" opposing "western decadence" by invading Ukraine is complete and total propaganda lies, which no reasonable person would swallow if not already corrupted in their own values.

Map of relative corruption of countries worldwide.
Shades of green = clean, shades of red = corrupt.


36 posted on 09/21/2023 6:05:38 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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