Posted on 09/16/2023 6:53:58 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | A new Attack operation on the south | Kadyrov could be in coma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zpvDWopHCg
The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 13th September 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]
https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-567-summary/
*** Great interactive maps with viewer controlled Map magnification tool to use for each Front!
https://militaryland.net/maps/
Maybe Laird Austin can get Sodomites and trannies to supplant our usual fighting men. Then, of course, we’ll officially be the “Great Satan” others in the world termed us.
It’s not isolationism. It’s mind-our-own-business-and-tend-to-our-own-affairsism. Let’s do something about our own wide open “sacred borders.”
If the “unconstitutional regime in DC” decides to upgrade wholly to war (WW3) status - you will be prosecuted.
If you decide to continue your criticisms in THAT situation - that is up to you.
My opinion is that the “evil globalist-Communist axis of evil” is a figment of your imagination. Its a way of avoiding the complexity of the world.
And if it reaches that point, brother, it will be nuclear, and not a damn thing else on earth will matter. Just what the Malthusian globalist oligarchs want. A gravely diminished population, say 95% fewer folks than we have now, ruled over by this evil, godless bunch who managed to hide from the nukes and the fallout in their own shelters. Insulated from the evil they created.
Wrong.
See post #104. You are criminally naive, sir.
I didn’t realize the US forced Russia to attack Ukraine.
“mind-our-own-business-and-tend-to-our-own-affairsism”
AKA isolationism.
The sacred borders are due to an internal US conflict of interests. Some powerful Americans want the border open. You and them have a beef. Resolve that beef by beating those interests and you will close the border. It has nothing to do with Ukraine.
Nope. The Ukraine is just a typical diversion away from America’s true problems. But, thanks again for exposing your real agenda here. I take it you’re not in America, since American problems do not concern you at all. Not even nuclear war. Guess you’ll be one of those proudly serving your Malthusian globalist oligarchs after 95% of humanity is gone. Count me and the rest of us sane folks out, we’ll go to God with our souls intact.
G’night.
He’s not American. He’s a Filipino living in Spain and has posted comments disdainful of Americans.
Estimate this
Read revelations 13
Importing european imperialism
Pope - king - armies
Diversity church - state fascism
False prophet - beast - antichrist
Makes the usa world babylon
Nato flying the rainbow flag
We’re talking 4th reich Hitler germany
Via a dnc minority run nazi mobocracy
That no govt can contain - control this pc invincibility madness
It took Russia 70 years to sort this 3rd way mess out
The majority of Ukrainians will never settle for such a resolution. Not any more. Any leader who does (try to settle thusly) will be lucky to get out alive. Besides, some substantial places, like Mariupol, were not even majority ethnic Russian, much less pro-Russian, in recent years. Yet, the Russians can’t lose Mariupol if they intend to keep Crimea, or any of Southern Ukraine east of Mariupol.
You do correctly bring up the point of who keeps the two sides from constantly flaring up new conflicts. Good Lord, you’d need at least 100k very well armed and DETERMINED* troops, from “somebody” both sides would accept.
*Back in the days of the warring factions in the former Yugoslavia, sometimes one could a bit later read the reports of the peacekeepers. I read a few. In one case a Danish unit was assigned to protect a village. Per the Danes’ (who were pretty good troops by all accounts) commander, the Serbs rolled in with a few tanks and simply pushed the Danes aside, proceding to massacre everyone in the village, men, women, and children. (Atrocities went the other way too; my point is the extreme difficulty of peacekeeping in such a large and sometimes “mixed” area.)
BTW, who is this Tsar in waiting that is supported by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church?
On a bit more positive note, private giving is one thing - my wife and I give to relief efforts through her church. But when it comes to taxpayer money for humanitarian purposes, I think the US effort should turn to useful relief items sent to Ukraine, not $$. I could probably also support money sent to Romania, Poland, etc., for help / shelter for refugees in those countries.
Noted. BTW, the argument that excessive QE or debt spending is “#1” won’t get harsh criticism from me. I just think we could get everything we need done, done, without needing either, except in time of a major war, as in WW2, or in time of major economic shock or natural disaster — say (one of my favorite fears) the New Madrid Fault decides to repeat a months-long series of epic earthquakes...
The ridiculously litigious nature of our gov’t and society is right up there too. What an incredible burden on a country!! :-(
Hey, Kerry SHOULD have been prosecuted for treason, and B4 that, court martialed for completely fabricating after-action reports. In addition, his superiors whose duty was to read those reports, evidently didn’t question them and should have at least been demoted. Nobody with two bits of sense and the slightest knowledge of where Kerry was at in some of those incidents can read those reports and take them seriously. Yet that made up information could have (and may have) gotten some of our guys killed.
(All hail to the Swift Boat Vets who turned this crap up! And who also turned me on to FR.) :-)
Not my preferred indicator of assessing the conflict, it is still a useful one.
YES!
“There will be more drones, more attacks, and fewer Russian ships. That’s for sure”
Excellent comparison.
The Western military/industrial complex has been trotting them out for years and that play has returned great dividends to it. People are wising up to the scam now and starting to recognize the "Two Minute Hate" crew for what they are; the lowest of the low, bringers of nothing but death, sorrow and ruin.
Youcrayne and Ruzzzziiiiiaaa have been going at it for one hundred plus years. Let them settle their differences without Western interference.
Straight up humanitarian aid to help those whose lives have been destroyed in this war? Yes, but only voluntarily.
There are plenty of ultra-rich war cheerleaders who can step up and get that done. Let's see how many of the Youcrayniacs on this site will open their wallets to help the corrupt, child trafficking and money laundering craphole they are so madly in love with. My guess is "none."
To slightly adapt a line from Babylon 5:
This avalanche is hundreds of years in the making. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
I’ll get back to that.
Now, not to support Biden, but in fact, Israel’s Bennet, who was THE guy in the middle of the negotiations, clearly stated the US was indecisive and then mostly following the Brits on this one, not the other way around.
Further, Bennet clearly stated that after the mass graves of civilians were found in Ukraine, the die was cast. (My close summary of his words - I’d have to try to hunt up in the vid his exact statement.) Not to mention a host of other complications he was not up to speed on, going in, which he freely admitted.
I don’t know that Bennet’s view about the graves was quite correct — I think the die was already “cast”. The mass graves were just the super glue that locked it in place.
I’ve been, well, “curious” about Ukraine for a very long time - since my mid-teens, and then that expanded after Chernobyl due to professional interest in nuclear power. I’m seeing something now both understandable, given the last few generations’ history, and a bit scary. It is as if Putin hit a button on a guitar amp, said button labelled “repressed anger”, flipped the “never again” switch on, and turned the master gain to “10”. So many FReepers don’t understand this: You’d think being champions of freedom and individualism, etc., they’d comprehend that many things are not “top down”, and in fact many powerful political or economic movements are mostly ground up, even if it takes a particular individual to focus, lead, and express that movement’s desires publicly. Sort of like Trump...
The inability of most FReepers to think in more than one or two dimensions is also thoroughly disappointing. As this applies to NATO it is almost mind-boggling. NATO is about a lot more than Russia... (A very long but unfortunately mostly OT discussion. Plus I’m 3 hrs overdue to sleep.)
The Ukrainians are not cut from the same cloth as the radical Muslims. They are not driven by religious fervor, even though most Ukies are quite religious, conservative, civilized people. But, they are deeply angry, and deeply of that “never again” mindset. Anyone who underestimates that anger, or how the forces that shape history work, and thinks the real players at work here are Biden or Johnson or Putin or Zelenskyy or even the US “Deep State”, is a damn fool.
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