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To: Chickensoup

I have a book, a biography, on the great Cicero of Rome. He lived right in the time parallel to what seems like we are beginning. That is the fall of its Republic. I noticed some interesting parallels as well.

I should re-read it.


2 posted on 09/15/2023 2:33:01 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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To: Phoenix8

Yes. Martin talks pretty plainly about what migration did to Rome.


4 posted on 09/15/2023 2:43:51 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Phoenix8

Add
-Endless wars.

-Destruction of freeholding landed middle class as men away for wars and farms undercut by the slave labor they enabled

-Emergence of cut throat political parties.

-Rich powerful men inciting/buying the mob/elections with public and private money.

-Centuries old laws suspended/ignored, Senate becomes a comedy act.

-Conversion of a militia Legion system to a professional one.

-All wealth and power pooling in the Imperial City.

-Collapse of morals and Roman Virtue,

I could go on.....but others are doing a good job...


21 posted on 09/15/2023 4:41:03 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Phoenix8

“I have a book, a biography, on the great Cicero of Rome. He lived right in the time parallel to what seems like we are beginning. That is the fall of its Republic. I noticed some interesting parallels as well.”

I read some comments by Cicero about Rome and I couldn’t tell the difference between our welfare state and theirs.


43 posted on 09/15/2023 8:01:48 AM PDT by dljordan
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