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Ron DeSantis is the better man. But the nomination now belongs to Donald Trump
09/08/2023 | Drew68

Posted on 09/08/2023 9:20:57 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: willWeEverBuildTheWall

Personally, I think you are full of sea water. Where were you when President Trump was building the wall.. I am sick of Trans-Republicans pretending to be what they literally can never be.. (Yeah, I know I ended the last sentence with a preposition.) There is literally a legion of sanctimonious, pious, self-righteousness snobs who offer nothing worthy of anything but the local spit and whittle club.


161 posted on 09/09/2023 8:56:27 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: odawg
Can you inform us how his accomplishments of executive leadership, with a friendly legislature, which is how he accomplishes his objectives, compare to Donald Trump and his accomplishments in D C with a hostile legislature and the simultaneous hostility of the deeep state and the Federal government and the MSM?

DeSantis flipping Florida red and getting a friendly legislature elected on his coattails is evidence of his leadership abilities.

Trump losing the House and being forced to legislate by Executive Order is evidence of his leadership abilities.

162 posted on 09/09/2023 8:57:13 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Just mythoughts

Desantis will make a great president


163 posted on 09/09/2023 9:02:15 AM PDT by willWeEverBuildTheWall (Why have we never built the wall ?)
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To: willWeEverBuildTheWall

Spit and whittle.. He needs to pay off his student loans and apprentice a private sector business first.. Thus far, he is a ward of the state, out selling himself to billionaires doing cattle calls.


164 posted on 09/09/2023 9:06:11 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: Drew68

“DeSantis flipping Florida red and getting a friendly legislature elected on his coattails is evidence of his leadership abilities.”

DeSantis did not flip Florida. Trump did, remember; he won Florida first. And DeSantis was losing until Trump campaigned for him, pulled him from way behind, and DeSantis was able to sqeeze out a victory.

“Trump losing the House and being forced to legislate by Executive Order is evidence of his leadership abilities.”

Trump did not lose the House. He had the RINOs sabotaging him, and it is normally in this country for the administration to lose the midterm elections.

But to compare the forces arrayed against Trump with the minute state forces arrayed against DeSantis shows a lack of good sense.

Trump losing the House and being forced to legislate by Executive Order is evidence of his leadership abilities.


165 posted on 09/09/2023 9:09:43 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Drew68

Desantis is the clear choice for me. He can beat anything the Democrats throw as candidate, other presidents have promised including trump and not delivered. I need to give DeSantis the nod


166 posted on 09/09/2023 9:16:04 AM PDT by willWeEverBuildTheWall (DeSantis is the clear choice )
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To: willWeEverBuildTheWall
Desantis is the clear choice for me. He can beat anything the Democrats throw as candidate, other presidents have promised including trump and not delivered. I need to give DeSantis the nod

I intend to continue to support DeSantis at every opportunity because he's far and away the more competent of the two. It's disheartening to see him slip away in the polls and I'm not going to deny it's happening.

At the end of the day, I didn't have to abandon every conservative principle that I've ever held to support DeSantis.

167 posted on 09/09/2023 9:21:32 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: Drew68

President Trump is a squish on the 2nd Amendment.

That’s a concern. He has shown no regret or contrition about the bump stock ban and how he used the Deep State to enact more gun control.

His comments about red flag laws call into question his commitment to due process regarding such laws.

DeSantis clearly has the better record regarding the 2nd Amendment. But he’s a non-glitzy campaigner. And glitz and schtick mean a lot to voters.


168 posted on 09/09/2023 9:22:40 AM PDT by Fury
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To: devere

It is just amazing to me that after what was done to Kavanagh any thinking person could confuse quality of evidence with number of accusers or the acting ability of those accusers.


169 posted on 09/09/2023 9:37:09 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: Fury
He's well past non glitzy. He waffles, retracts, and is inauthentic. He promises things that as President are not in his bailiwick to deliver. He is a traditional politician beholden to Globalist/Big Business interests and pandering to hot button issue voters. TPP, Puerto Rican statehood, a real conservative.
170 posted on 09/09/2023 9:41:40 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: willWeEverBuildTheWall

We will never know.


171 posted on 09/09/2023 9:42:36 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: Fury
President Trump is a squish on the 2nd Amendment.

That’s a concern. He has shown no regret or contrition about the bump stock ban and how he used the Deep State to enact more gun control.

And that's because Trump is not, nor has ever been a conservative.

He's a 90's-style New York liberal who embraced populism as his ticket to the White House.

I have zero doubt that if Nancy Pelosi was able to drop an Assault Weapon Ban on his desk, he'd have signed it.

172 posted on 09/09/2023 9:46:49 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: willWeEverBuildTheWall

You seem like a retread of forYourChildrenVote4Bush
Same odd repeated statement with awkward syntex. Well come back.


173 posted on 09/09/2023 9:51:47 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: Drew68

He is clearly the the superior candidate that others have failed to see

Trump supporters don’t seem to see through all his lies.

I believed trump in 2016 but he really didn’t deliver. I supported trump during 2020 but I now have moved on.

There is still time for desantis to be more aggressive in the debates. I believe in him. I was a bit disappointed in the first debate he wasn’t more aggressive but there is time left.


174 posted on 09/09/2023 9:58:26 AM PDT by willWeEverBuildTheWall (DeSantis is the clear choice )
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To: mass55th

I came across this today

During the first GOP Presidential Debate, @RonDeSantis told a strange story about how he met an “Angel Mom” from Texas named “Tracy” @GoldStar_2Step whose son died from fentanyl poisoning after taking drugs.

Turns out Tracy is a real woman. Her name is Tracy La Porte. But she’s a Gold Star mom, not an Angel mom, and she exclusively told me she’s never met @RonDeSantis, as he falsely claimed.

She told me he also lied about the cause of her son’s death. Her son died on active duty in a car accident, not from fentanyl as DeSantis claimed.

https://loomered.com/2023/09/07/exclusive-ron-desantis-fabricated-debate-story-about-meeting-an-angel-mom-falsely-claims-gold-star-mothers-son-died-from-taking-drugs-laced-with-fentanyl/


175 posted on 09/09/2023 10:03:59 AM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: BrexitBen; broken_clock
DeSantis made a huge mistake by not waiting until 2028.

I don't think it was his decision. I think his big backers hate Trump so much that they told Ron he either runs now or never.

176 posted on 09/09/2023 10:42:10 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: willWeEverBuildTheWall
I am happy desantis is running

Yeah, well, welcome to FR anyway.

177 posted on 09/09/2023 10:43:28 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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To: HamiltonJay
Mickey Mouse would have beaten Christ in Florida, by a wide margin.

Call him Charlie, just so there are no misunderstandings.

178 posted on 09/09/2023 10:48:46 AM PDT by x
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To: JayGalt
Thanks for sharing the link to the story about Gold Star Mom Tracy. I had heard vague references to her, but didn't know the whole story of what went down.

Back in 2008, I remember watching McCain and Obama debate. In one of his debate responses, McCain was talking about a Gold Star Mother who had asked him to wear her son's bracelet. McCain gave his name as Cpl. Matthew Stanley. He'd been killed in Iraq. Once McCain was done with his response, Obama quickly piped up: "I got a bracelet too, " and then had to look at the bracelet to remember whose name was on it: Sergeant Ryan David Jopek. I can still remember how I reacted when I watched it on the TV all those years ago. I despised both McCain and Obama, but it was pretty telling how little the bracelet actually meant to Obama since he couldn't even remember the guy's name that was on the bracelet he was wearing.

179 posted on 09/09/2023 10:51:13 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Baldwin77

From the Republican side, yes.


180 posted on 09/09/2023 10:52:06 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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