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To: ransomnote
I saw one Lahaina fire video of a couple who said they were driving around trying too breach the road blocks. They pulled into the Safeway parking lot and were told by occupants of another car that their car was on fire. They didn't know. The other people let them come into their car for safety. I don't remember if they weathered out the whole fire in that parking lot but the Safeway didn't burn.

The video that accompanied this telling also included a shot of a car driving along the edge of this parking lot which had it's roof on fire. I have no good explanation for that, but something on their roof was making flames - maybe they'd driven under a fallen/burning tree and snagged a branch. I appreciate that the title was not yours, and you're not saying DEW, but nonetheless a War of the Worlds evoking scenario of ray weapons is too far fetched for me. The political incompetence (religious water bureaucracy, old overburdened power poles, unchecked brush undergrowth, etc.) and government's paternalistic reflex (we know best which routes to channel you into) of this disaster are more disturbing issues than speculating about nefarious sources of otherwise explainable car fires.

The coming continued control reflex of government is going to be the kill-shot to Lahaina ever being what it was. They can't help it. They're in a position of authority; the elites are going to brainstorm for new rules and regulations to the point that the old residents (not wealthy in general) are going to be pushed down the road to other parts of the island. The somewhat bohemian whaling village of Lahaina will exist only in the trinkets sold in the gift shops.

84 posted on 08/30/2023 11:09:45 PM PDT by Tellurian (To the Dems, the middle class is a festering wound. They want it amputated.)
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To: Tellurian

I watched while the MSM paved over the Camp Fire (Paradise CA) and abnormal/impossible fire patterns have since been instituted - to question the details that don’t add up is considered ‘wrong’ so now we have more and people point to the precedent, “If that (freakish) fire was ‘normal’ than any and all abnormal fires are normal.”
The second video shows two cars equally toasted in a parking area with houses surrounding it on all sides but the houses and greenery are untouched, and the cars are melted. IN fact, the burn pattern in that second video is literally square - it neatly borders the sidewalk, makes a 90 degree angle and forms a squared burn pattern. NATURAL! Not.

I don’t buy the scenarios - sometimes an unnatural burn is not natural.


85 posted on 08/30/2023 11:37:52 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Tellurian
If the actions by the local authorities were not deliberate, they were so stupid that they would make the people running things in the movie Idiocracy seem like the staff of the Manhattan Project. At least the Idiocracy people would have used Brawndo to extinguish the fires.
91 posted on 08/31/2023 4:20:10 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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