Of course, that would work better in colder climes! :0)
Posted on 08/21/2023 7:33:04 AM PDT by Red Badger
Large-screen TVs and car phones utilized the same technology as other TVs and phones; there was no mandate to buy them. You could still make calls from other phones and just as easily watch TV on a 36" screen, if needed.
An EV car is an entirely new technology that's being pushed on people in an effort to control them. Personal mobility is a way to exercise freedom and we are heading to a future where there will be haves and have-nots of EVs because of their cost.
If you can't afford an EV, you'll be subject to whatever mass-transit is available. Like living in suburbia? Too bad, move to where mass transit is found.
I take my Honda Accord down to about 25 miles between fill-ups, which is about a gallon.
Combined hwy. and city driving, the Accord gets a little over 500 miles per tank. Subtract 25 miles from that and I get 475miles between fill-ups.
Codswallop. What a blooming mess.
I had a electric vehicle from 2001 through 2011.
It was excellent! It was much quieter than similar gas powered vehicles and no obnoxious exhaust. I drive 6 miles 5 times every week and then plugged in charger for next days use. I purchased new acid lead batteries for this used vehicle and never had to replace batteries.
Yes, it was my riding golf cart.
Great article and thanks to the author for summarizing the truly awful downsides of an electric car.
There are now so many Teslas in Metro Atlanta I counted 3 drive by the other day during a stoplight interval. They’re everywhere.
then don’t buy one.
Thats not good enough. The EV bull$hit is hurting everyone. Including the environment.
A couple weeks ago hwy 50 leaving Lake Tahoe was closed for 2 hours because an EV caught fire and the fire dept was just gonna let it burn. The freeway was closed for 2 hours because of one car. What a bunch of horse $hit. Battery cars are a damn racket.
The 5.0, 3.5 DT or the 2.7?
You’re correct of course, EVs are not practical for road trips, and are really only useful for shorter regular commutes. I believe that was the point of the article.
Almost everyone needs/wants to take a long distance trip at some point. So this means they would need two cars, or have to rent a car for a road trip. Neither is ideal.
But when they can have a vehicle at half the price that is capable of both commuting and road trips, it makes an EV pretty impractical for 90% of the country.
This is a great idea for anyone who gets a fever to buy an EV. Rent one for two weeks before spending your cold hard cash.
There are lots of anti EV folks in kneejerk mode about blah blah government intrusion this or that.
There are a lot of folks on “the fence” about “it’s not there yet, but it will be. Just wait.”
So here are some items not mentioned in the thread above.
Oil consumption is rising. The insertion of EVs into society is not having much effect on it. The reason is
The people who buy these were never driving long distances to begin with. They would not have bought the EV if they were. Therefore, them not driving a gasoline car does not save much gasoline, because they weren’t consuming much pre EV.
The limits on charging are not engineering. They are physics. You can only force so many amperes into a battery so fast. The limit is generally always the conductors along the path of flow. They heat up. To avoid melting and fire, you slow the flow. This could be engineering only if you had superconductors in the entire infrastructure that do not heat up. People quote the battery capacities in miles, or kilowatt-hours — but what they mean is ampere hours. Because:
A watt is a volt-ampere. If you quote a battery as 100 kilowatt-hours, which Tesla does, then you get to ampere hours by knowing the voltage of the battery. It is about 400V. So a 100 KwHr battery at 400V has a capacity of 250 Ampere Hours.
Forget how long it takes to drain it. To replace that you have to flow 250 Amperes (at 450ish Volts, needs to be above the battery voltage to flow) in 1 hour. 250 Amps is a lot to ask of the cables and charger so drop that down to, say, 125 Amperes **and now 2 hours**. Even 125 is a lot so another divide by 2 to 75 amperes — and so on. This is why it is hours and hours to recharge. The cables will melt otherwise.
The battery terminals ditto.
My point is, this is not engineering. This is physics. You have to have entirely new superconducting materials for this to not eat the time of people who have lives to live. And if they are non paperwork sort of workers, that time is not just out of their lives, it is time out of their $$/hour work of plumbing or construction or . . . even truck driving. The driver isn’t making money if he’s sitting and waiting.
There’s also how long one’s personal holding tank will last.
But that's because I had to spend time for gas fill-ups even for local driving. The EV charges at home for local driving (and the first leg of a trip) without me having to stand around waiting for it.
I still have an ICE pickup I occasionally drive for pickup chores or times my wife and I need 2 cars to run separate errands for the day. And I'll use the ICE pickup if I go on a long trip without my wife. She wants to stop every 200 miles and walk around for 10-15 minutes anyway, which is conducive to charging the EV on trips. I'd rather go 350-400 miles before stopping for a pee break and gas fill up (ICE is better for trips I'd take without my wife, which hasn't happened since we got the EV but I'm sure it will).
Last but not least are hotel reservations or cabin reservations on a trip. If we stop at a hotel that has a complementary charger, it saves me from having to "fill up" the next morning like I would if I had an ICE car. The same with if we rent a cabin to stay at a state park while on a road trip and they let us use a nearby RV spot for free to charge the EV. So trips with those options make us lean more to taking the EV. Basically, on those trips we don't just "get by" with an EV -- having an EV is more convenient than an ICE car. But trips with few charging options mean we take the ICE pickup. By having one of each car type we get to choose what's best for the occasion. After we decide on a trip to take and make our hotel/cabin reservations and look at the various fast charging options, we know which car is best for the task.
I expect a fight when I refuse to buy an RV.
The government is planning to force the issue.
I’m standing by, waiting.........bring it on.
Where TF have you been the last years?
EVs are not being hyped as putz-around-town cars as you pretend. China, fed.gov, Joe Biden and many manufacturers push them as replacements for all ICE vechicles.
They have no useful future.
Of course, that would work better in colder climes! :0)
EVs are just not ready for prime time. They are upper class golf carts.
I see them all over here in the Ft. Walton/Destin area every day. There’s one down the street from me, and I see them on the USED CAR lots now...............
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