In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 08/11/2023 Vol.469, Q Day 2114, numberonepal wrote: It's all a coincidence don'tchaknow.
A few days ago, I commented dryly on an FR article describing nuclear power as 'clean' energy, noting that it wasn't clean when Fukushima blew nuclear core material into the air, soil and water. Same with Chernobyl.
My comment triggered the wrath of pro nuke peeps - who quickly and repeatedly demanded the subject of my comments become focused coal fuel (it's a nuke lobby thing, change the subject to solar/wind/coal and never discuss nuke).
When I recognized stale old arguments, including the assertion that I should be more concerned about kitty litter and granite counter tops (seriously - they meant it, well they wanted me to think that it was legit), I had enough nonsense and bowed out, not wishing to waste my time. One advocate kept after me, taunting me and demanding I respond, telling me to compare/contrast alternative fuels etc. and asking me if I was equally afraid of sunshine I received during a day at the beach etc.
Oh and a key to his argument was to repeatedly talk about my emotions, fears. He never would acknowledge that I could have based my comment on anything other than 'hysterical' over reaction due to ignorance. He'd ask what influenced my emotions to have such 'fears' etc.
So today's 'coincidence' made me cringe for more than one reason. *cringe* So the WEF is all about Hawaiian energy. They almost had a 5 year delta...
Btw, you’re appearing to be the master digger of renoun, here. Your instincts for weaving dots and directing them into real time and live action defines the real Q “Anon”. In fact, real Anons were always rare.
In the beginning of Q Thread, fresh off discoving 4 chan, a few IQ minded freepers here kicked some doors in, themselves. You remind me of that class. A synthesizer par excellànce.
Now shut-up and keep typing.😄 Luff your stuff.
Hawaii-—entirely clean energy? Not gonna happen for a real, really long time. The HQ of Hawaiian Electric would first have to be bombed. Those folks will fight it tooth and other misc. parts.
On Oahu electricity is now 35 cents/kilowatt-hr more or less. All the islands are oil fired and while they encourage solar panels, they are as backward as can be in making them work. If one panels his roof the best he can do is go to zero on the power bill but even at that there is still a minimum charge just for being hooked up. If one over generates they will not pay back for the power that gets dumped to them. Meters won’t run backward either.
About 1968 I sat in on a conference that was chaired by the HECO VP of engineering. At the time they were buying sweet oil for 1.50/barrel. He was asked how high oil would have to go for Nuke power to be economical. He said it would have to double to 3.00/barrel.
That ship came and sailed in the oil embargo of 1973 and, still nuke power was never mentioned again. This, in spite of Pearl Harbor Nuke Division being one of the best sources of Nuke related experience anywhere on the planet. Half of the US Pacific Fleet is nuke powered-——but the Islands-——nnnnoooowwwwaaaayyy. They will fight you to the last dimokrat.
As a side note, at the time, the nuke plant builders were thinking BIG. They only wanted to build plants of 500 megawatts and bigger. The HECO guy claimed they just didn’t need that much power. That was before Sears started selling air conditioners?
As a professional Mechanical Engineer, still registered in Hawaii I’ve done the numbers on these options many times. But the politicians just can’t figger out a way to feed off of nuke power.