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To: daniel1212

I completely understand why for over 30 years my guidance in prayerful meditation has been to not share this knowledge with the public. Recently that has changed due to the times we are in.

When people are full of themselves, they have no ears to hear or eyes to see. That’s why Jesus shared the secrets to the Kingdom with His disciples and no one else. To everyone else He spoke in parables. (Luke 8:10)

The times coming will be rough. For most it will take extreme despair until they open their eyes and ears.

What I have shared barely scratches the surface. The fruits will be kept away until people are ready to hear.

It’s not my will, but His Will.

I personally could care less. I am more than ready to return home, if it be His Will.

I have planted a seed, but the soil is not fertile. So be it.

🙏🙏🙏


257 posted on 08/13/2023 7:59:10 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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“irrational parroted polemic is simply non-sense.”? Not in the least. It is simple logic. An omniscient entity knows exactly what will happen - there can be NO choice or else the entity is NOT omniscient. When that entity is also the CREATOR then said creator knew every thought, word, action and deed you would ever have and do BEFORE creation. Let that sink in! You, a human, may know someone well enough to PREDICT their response/action quite accurately. That, sir, is NOT omniscience as the person could possibly surprise you and do something different. YOU are not omniscient.

Actually, your response examples irrationality, since it presumes omniscience equates to predetermination as requiring the removal of choice, which is simply not a rational conclusion. If I could go back in time to 50 years ago then I could know for certain things that would happen, but that simply does not mean I must make any happen. And yet for an eternal omniscient the future is seen as well as the past.

And I were omniscient and also omnipotent, then I could also know what all the effects would be of any possible choices I made while in the past, and even know what brought them about, and know how to be able ensure man would be able to make choices, and yet, as with Pharaoh, leave him with the ability to make his own choices.

As to the old Pharaoh, God knew exactly what the Pharaoh would do. Otherwise God was, in a manner of speaking, “rolling the dice.”
Yes, indeed God did know exactly what the Pharaoh would do. But that in no way meant Pharaoh had no alternative choice, not only in the one's at issue, but the previous moral choices he made which left him with a heart that resulted in the character that he had, with its resultant response to manifestly supernatural reproofs.

“means that you are beyond being judged by manifestly finite exceedingly ignorant man,” Really? What do you think happens daily in court rooms around the world? I’ll give you a clue. Humans sit in judgement of other humans.

The exceedingly finite judging the same is simply not analogous to the exceedingly finite, profoundly relatively ignorant of all that can be known, and existing as mere specks in the universe, and in the expanse of time, presuming to condemn an omniscient and also omnipotent being as immoral, which is absurd, seeing as the former is in no position to know all the facts, past, present and future and all the causes, and effects, past and future into eternity.

I also find it “interesting” that you consider man ignorant while you write your thoughts using the Internet. You may not understand what it takes for your posts to reach me and mine to reach you but it is NOT the result of ignorantly.

That is simply not analogous, since the issue is not judging your IT knowledge, but that of judging the content of posts.

Humans are far from knowing everything but over the last couple of centuries the veil of ignorance has be torn and lifted. It is not gone as yet but neither do we remain blinded by it.

Which also another proffered polemic of antitheists, that argues that science has discovered the physical causes of such occurrences as lightning which used to ascribed as purely supernatural. then all else will be, that the universe is a result of purely natural processes, which is a position of faith since it certainly is no proven.
And to the contrary, the more we learn of an exceedingly vast, systematically ordered universe, exquisitely finely tuned for life with intricate astounding complexity, then the more it testifies to design, requiring a First Cause (at the least), that of a powerful being of supreme intelligence being behind the existence of energy and organization of matter. https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4125206/posts?page=23#23

259 posted on 08/13/2023 11:05:04 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: tired&retired
I completely understand why for over 30 years my guidance in prayerful meditation has been to not share this knowledge with the public. Recently that has changed due to the times we are in. When people are full of themselves, they have no ears to hear or eyes to see. That’s why Jesus shared the secrets to the Kingdom with His disciples and no one else. To everyone else He spoke in parables. (Luke 8:10) The times coming will be rough. For most it will take extreme despair until they open their eyes and ears. What I have shared barely scratches the surface. The fruits will be kept away until people are ready to hear. It’s not my will, but His Will. I personally could care less. I am more than ready to return home, if it be His Will. I have planted a seed, but the soil is not fertile. So be it.

So once again your response is to blithely ignore doctrinal questions and reproofs of your assertions and abuse of Scripture but as with some many other esoterical cultists, defer to claims of being possessors of elite knowledge, and infer challengers are people broad brushed as "full of themselves" as yourself being above such. Nothing new in delusion here.

260 posted on 08/13/2023 11:26:11 AM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: All; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; ...
Note that the post above about an "irrational parroted polemic" was posted here by accident, as it actually was a response to an antitheist comment on Quora comment. Since that section does not enable any formatting, yet allows formatted html, then I used the FF forum to create a reply to then pasted it there, but I forgot where I was responding.

But feel free to comment here.

261 posted on 08/13/2023 12:29:33 PM PDT by daniel1212 (As a damned+destitute sinner turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves souls on His acct + b baptized 2 obey)
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To: tired&retired

264 posted on 08/13/2023 1:29:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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