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To: mdmathis6

Your perspective does not represent reality for me as God’s Love is UNCONDITIONAL.

I understand that your perception could also be correct if you viewed parents as punishing to discipline rather than loving.

I believed in discipline out of love, because I wanted the child to grow up understanding the power of love. Thus I separated the behavior from the child.

Always love the child.

Teach that behavior has consequences.

While that was my goal, I’m human and far from perfect and made mistakes.

This leads to another closely related topic. I could never fear God as His perfect Love casts out all fear. If you define fear as “hold in reverence” or “Awe”, then yes.

Bottom line, I’m not disagreeing with your perspective of judgement, it’s not my experience or perception with Jesus or God.

Natural consequences of my behavior, yes definately.

Think of a life review as a report card at the end of the year. Is a report card judgement or just an evaluation of what I learned or still need to learn.

Sometimes we need remedial work to learn what is required to reach the next level. Thus there are consequences of not knowing the required material, but it is not judgement.

Karma is a topic related to this. Karma is real and stored as a higher level in our soul. We subconsciously choose relationships and experiences that help us remove karma as it is an obstacle to Love in our soul.


189 posted on 08/12/2023 4:04:28 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: tired&retired

I didn’t say that God was like a Father seeking to rip apart his child...I said it was to get his attention to try to save him from the evil path.!

God is love...but it can be like the emergent use of a surgeon’s scalpel without benefit of anesthesia. Yes tact can be useful if there is time and place for it. Gods word is sharper than any two edged sword dividing asunder soul from spirit. Such a dividing is not always emotionally kindly at first, but it is saving!

Judas accused Jesus of having no love when he allowed perfume to be poured upon himself.(That perfume could have been sold and money given to the poor...as per Judas)It was shall we say in your terms a “karmic” accusation that was no doubt tragically wounding to the loving nature of Christ who had spoken of a coming betrayal and of the lostness of the person who would betray him.

You accuse me of having no love...don’t deny it, the drive by accusation echoes in the walls and chambers!

So here is MY assertion...you have an open invitation to the wedding feast of the Lamb only you keep trying to bring spiritual and/or philisophical Eastern Mystical “guests” along with you who would never be invited! They have to go thru the gate of Christ and be vetted, but these “guests” would never be allowed thru! The way is narrow. Acts 17:16 thru 34 explains it all!
Enough said on my part...Mike Mathis of Central Virginia...you can have the last word!


191 posted on 08/12/2023 4:38:21 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: tired&retired
Your perspective does not represent reality for me as God’s Love is UNCONDITIONAL.

I think that 'reality' is the same for everyone.

197 posted on 08/12/2023 5:14:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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