We live in a world where our ability to measure things exceeds the practical limits of their relevancy.
For example, we can still see the background radiation of the big bang, you can still see radiation from the above surface atomic tests we conducted... But other than knowing a cool fact or in the sciences themselves, does it matter in your day to day life?
That’s why granite counter tops and cat litter do matter. You’re exposed to alpha and beta radiation from natural sources or in medical applications that FAR exceed anything you get from Chernobyl, Fukushima or all the nations of this world and their above surface nuclear tests combined. You get more radiation when going skiing in Colorado than if you went to ground zero at Trinity. You get more radiation from your dentist, going to a beach... You are probably not afraid of going into an underground basement of a building, to stay in a concrete building...
You define any and all exposure as to much, and since we can measure radiation and even often determine their source to a miniscule and irrelevant level, you’re basically making a big deal out of NOTHING.
If this is a conversation about health and safety, if I were you, I would worry more about that particle board furniture and its offgas, the carpet in your home, or better yet the >50% chance of you being obese. Cat litter and granite matter because you’re worrying about threats that are basically irrelevant, while ignoring things which do matter.
worrying about threats that are basically irrelevant, while ignoring things which do matter.
That's been the technique that the opponents of nuclear power have taken since the 1970's. You point out the (real) problems of the technology, exaggerate them, and ignore the problems with the alternatives. You're seeing that play out in this thread: radiation is scary, invisible, and too much of it can do a lot of bad things. But that emotion-based argument is compelling, and once you've got someone frightened, it's going to be tough to get them to accept that they might have been bamboozeled.
It workd in Germany. Astonishingly, they shut down their perfectly good nuclear plants in favor of Russian natural gas, and now they're looking at a second winter at the mercy of a foreign government's industrial and foreign policy. And now it's come out that the Russians were funding the Green opposition to the German Nukes all along. It was in their economic and political interests to do so, and seemed fairly obvious at the time, but they pulled it off with fear.
Lots of innovative engineering is going on with small modular reactors, including Gen IV alternatives to the current pressurized water reactors that address some of the legitimate criticisms of that design, but that alone won't matter. It's going to be tough, but, as Paul Harvey would say, the rest of the story has to get out. There's got to be a way to point out the risks and benefits of alternatives, rather that focussinly only on the negatives of one side.
It seems to me that we've basically got two choices:
1. We can follow the path laid out by Klaus Schawb and his New Economic Forum, and just use a lot less fossil fuels right away. Of course, this will lead to economic devastation and plent of human suffering and death, but for him, that's a feature, not a fault. The WEF and Green focus on 'sustainable" power sources (mainly solar and wind) is a part of this strategy. They know that "sustainable" energy can't run the current world population or economy, but it does give a talking point that lets them sell the idea without admitting that there will be a lot fewer people around, living much more miserable lives. It's worth noting that the WEF seems to be OK with fusion research, mostly it seems because it's safely out in the distant future, as one wag stated it "Fusion is the energy source of the future, and always will be." It certainly won't be deployed in time to thwart their plans in any case.
2. Or, if we would prefer to have some semblance of a functioning economy, and not suffer a massive retreat in everyone's (well, everyone except our new overlords) quality of life, find more efficient ways to use oil and natural gas, and deploy both current Gen III PWR's, while developing viable Gen IV reactors and fuel recycling technology. My personal view is that the natural evolution will probably arrive at a LFTR design, but there's no rush. If Thorium cycle reactors take a hundred years to commercialize (and they won't), that would still be fine. We still have hundredes of years worth of Uranium to power a growing economy before anyone needs to seriously worry about "having" to switch to Thorium. And the Thorium will last long enough for someone, a couple of hundred years down the road, to finally figure out how to make fusion work economically. Well, that's not quite right. There's enough thorium to last much longer than that, if for some reason fusion remains elusive.
Things, at present, are moving along the lines that the globalist hegemons would prefer, but there's still hope. Perhaps the veil will drop soon enough for people to see the future that these people have planned for us that we can do something about it. Cracks are forming, and I remain hopeful.
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Another New Nuclear Reactor Energizes U.S. Clean Energy Hopes, Red6 wrote: |
We live in a world where our ability to measure things exceeds the practical limits of their relevancy. For example, we can still see the background radiation of the big bang, you can still see radiation from the above surface atomic tests we conducted... But other than knowing a cool fact or in the sciences themselves, does it matter in your day to day life? That’s why granite counter tops and cat litter do matter. You’re exposed to alpha and beta radiation from natural sources or in medical applications that FAR exceed anything you get from Chernobyl, Fukushima or all the nations of this world and their above surface nuclear tests combined. You get more radiation when going skiing in Colorado than if you went to ground zero at Trinity. You get more radiation from your dentist, going to a beach... You are probably not afraid of going into an underground basement of a building, to stay in a concrete building... You define any and all exposure as to much, and since we can measure radiation and even often determine their source to a miniscule and irrelevant level, you’re basically making a big deal out of NOTHING. If this is a conversation about health and safety, if I were you, I would worry more about that particle board furniture and its offgas, the carpet in your home, or better yet the >50% chance of you being obese. Cat litter and granite matter because you’re worrying about threats that are basically irrelevant, while ignoring things which do matter. |
WOW are you bad at this. You have to go back to 'talking-points' school because you just don't 'get' what you're saying while talking down to the public.
I mean you're so obviously disingenous:
"You’re exposed to alpha and beta radiation from natural sources or in medical applications that FAR exceed anything you get from Chernobyl, Fukushima or all the nations of this world and their above surface nuclear tests combined."
I've seen that worn out old tactic before - you're averaging the resulting impacts of radiation spills from the heavily impacted areas to 'smooth them out' as if the radioactive isotopes had actually been evenly distributed world-wide so that the problems caused by the nuke industry are of less significance than granite counter tops. That means you can blow up MANY MANY nuke plants, shower the terrain with fuel rods as in Fukushima and Chernobyl, and walk away sneering that "If I were you, I would worry more about particle board furniture."
Obviously there's nothing but distortion and disinformation in your posts - that's how you roll. You aren't even embarrassed - you don't 'get' how you exposed your backside here.
AN international organization visited villages hit hard by the Chernobyl blast and reported, "Every child is ill..." The public had nowhere to go so many families were forced to raise their families in contaminated regions for generations. The illness and damage to quality of life, death from cancer etc. just 'disappear' when the Russians make it illegal to report its relationship to radioactive waste in their food, water etc.
In Japan, TEPCO bragged that they had learned the 'lessons of Chernobyl' and so the government made it illegal for doctors to report radiation related health impacts or deaths, and Japanese people could be arrested and jailed for talking about Fukushima online.
And people like you trot along, chirping that kitty litter is worse. Disgusting.