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To: SeekAndFind

I always shake my head in wonderment when I see nuke power referred to as ‘clean energy’. Aside from Fukushima and Chernobyl, which still provide radiation to the environment today, US nuke plants are licensed to ‘burp’ radioactive gas in controlled amounts into the environment. There used to be a ‘scandalous map’ showing rosettes of cancer around nuke plants when plotted on a map of the US, as regions immediately surrounding the plants were said to experience higher rates of cancer. But it’s clean cancer, you see?


2 posted on 08/08/2023 10:30:14 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Yeah and you forgot about the spent fuel sitting in the cooling ponds and elsewhere. 100,000 years of instant death. How clean is that?

Clean EV’s, Clean Nuke plants... It is all propaganda for the gullible.


9 posted on 08/08/2023 10:39:50 AM PDT by Revel
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To: ransomnote

You’re full of crap. Nuclear reactors emit less radiation than coal plants, and there is ample data that low levels of radiation are actually beneficial.

Anti nuke sentiment is actually the result of KGB funded propaganda and organizations during the cold war. People like you are still helping an enemy craft this nation’s energy policy thirty years after that enemy no longer exists.

Ironically, when you take an actual unbiased look at real causes of death instead of imaginary emanations with no more foundation in reality than “climate change”, nuclear power is the safest form of electrical generation.


11 posted on 08/08/2023 10:43:07 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: ransomnote

Negative on releases.

None of the water from the TMI clean up was released into the river.


13 posted on 08/08/2023 10:45:49 AM PDT by meatloaf
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To: ransomnote

All power generation produces “pollution.”

But, nuclear power is one of the cleanest, i.e. no H2SO4, HNO3, no coal distillates, CO2, sludge, hydrocarbons... No large scale mining, no large scale logistics of coal, pipelines for gas, a small footprint (high power density) deriving power from highly efficient turbines, no heavy metals let lose, no noise pollution, minimal impact on the eco system even in the immediate area around the plant.

Nuclear power is the way to go.

In fact, nuclear power basically eliminates any argument folks like I have against EVs and allows for the transition to electric powered systems WITHOUT fossil fuels being burned in the background anyhow.

You only have 2 options:

1. Fossil fuels: gas, coal, wood, fuel oil, diesel...

2. Nuclear.

Do not mention solar, wind or the other bullshit. These are pipedreams, fake solutions anyone with a clue knows do not work. Every industrialized nation on this planet, with a few exceptions like Norway that are blessed with EXTREMELY favorable conditions for hydroelectric power, get their power either from fossil fuels or nuclear. Without going into all the details which I can provide you if interested, all these green alternatives are simply put, fake feel good solutions which politicians use as photo ops while nationally they either push ahead with fossil fuels or nuclear power- period.

France-nuclear
Germany-fossil
Japan-nuclear
USA- fossil/nuclear
Russia- fossil/nuclear

Even your solar panels and wind turbines pollute. But they pollute while not producing power at a cost point that is reasonable for industry and they are unreliable. Even solar panels are energy intense to produce, usually involve heavy meals in their manufacture... Wind turbines kill birds, have massive composite blades no one knows what do do with after they’re done, can be loud, require access roads, have a huge footprint (low power density), require big holes be dug, the use of power lines strung across the country side...

https://www.chernobyl-tour.com/english/ Not sure about how this war impacts things, but all this nuclear disaster crap is over hyped media junk, and the fact that people die in coal mines, from cancer that may be caused by coal hydrocarbons, asthma is worsened from fossil fuel pollution just isn’t a big deal. None of that seems to matter because it’s “normal” for you. If 46,000 American die in traffic accidents per year, little gets said, if a plane crashes and 2 people die it’s in the news. Nuclear power is the same. People are ignorant and have been taught to fear it, they do not understand it, but it’s actually COMPARATIVELY clean, safe, cheap, reliable, energy dense, nationally derived without any dependencies. Nuclear could literally produce power for thousands of years, the uranium used is a naturally occuring isotope, it’s just concentrated...

I grew up around a nuke plant and I doubt that you have. I also have a degree as an E.E. But I never had a financial interest in nuclear power. I really hope you’re just some anomaly and not representative of what public education produces today.


21 posted on 08/08/2023 12:29:07 PM PDT by Red6
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To: ransomnote
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Another New Nuclear Reactor Energizes U.S. Clean Energy Hopes, Ransomnote wrote:

I always shake my head in wonderment when I see nuke power referred to as ‘clean energy’.

 

Compared to what?

Coal?

Solar PV's from China?

Windmills?

Natural gas?

Dried dung cooking fires?

Or just shivering in the dark?

23 posted on 08/08/2023 12:44:26 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: ransomnote

In fact, I live near a plant today, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_Peak_Nuclear_Power_Plant

The point being that you could do tours of Chernobyl pre-war, and in fact it was a friggin “nature preserve.”

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/story/how-chernobyl-has-become-unexpected-haven-wildlife

Nuclear power does have it’s concerns which are primarily the risks associated with a catastrophic event or the waste, but when you weigh that off with the price we’re paying with fossil fuels, it’s a far better solution.

It only comes down to two options, fossil fuels, or nuclear power. Keep that in mind. And if climate change is a concern, then nuclear power is far better (no CO2). If acid rain is a concern, nuclear power is better (no H2SO4). If carcinogenic hydrocarbons are a concern, it’s far better. If the volume of waste material is a concern, nuclear power is better. If it’s how much mining is needed, how much in logistics is required, how much land area is required, nuclear wins every time. If you want power that is 100% US/Canadian, nuclear can do that. If you want cheap power, in high volume, that is reliable, even if it’s the hottest or coldest ever, windiest or not blowing at all, full sun or eclipse of the sun, nuclear can give you power.

Since you mention cancer: Do you know where those isotopes used in treating cancer and for medical imaging come from? https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/non-power-nuclear-applications/radioisotopes-research/radioisotopes-in-medicine.aspx

Do you realize you could stand on top of a cooling tower and nothing would happen to you... It’s just steam: https://www.nucleartourist.com/images/Kkn1.gif


29 posted on 08/08/2023 2:47:46 PM PDT by Red6
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To: ransomnote

Luddite.

L


51 posted on 08/10/2023 1:53:21 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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