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We’re now finding out the damaging results of the mandated return to the office–and it’s worse than we thought
Fortune ^ | Gleb Tsipursky

Posted on 08/03/2023 10:38:50 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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To: Yo-Yo

“’Gee, I liked staying home in my pajamas and working for 3 hours a day. Now I have to get dressed and go somewhere for eight hours to get paid?’”

And that is EXACTLY what these little snowflakes are rebelling against.

We have created a generation of utter crybabies and entitled little brats who will spell doom for not only themselves, but for a great many who are caught up in the chaos that will ensue.

Our government has spawned a generation of wimps. Societies made of sterner stuff are going to eat the wimps’ lunch as we older folks “cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.”


21 posted on 08/03/2023 10:55:51 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ShadowAce

Two statements struck me:

1. “The survey equates the displeasure of shifting from a flexible work model to a traditional one to that of experiencing a 2% to 3% pay cut.”

Helloooo... Depending on your commute time, distance, and fuel cost, it may actually BE a 2-3% paycut. I live a long way out, and a rough calculation for me would be in that range. I actually figured it in to my initial salary demand.

2. ...staff members were more open to returning to the office if it was out of choice, rather than forced.

Kinda like making me go to squiggly light bulbs or an electric car?

Taking away anything someone likes is going to cause a problem. There - 11 words, and you could have saved reading that column.


22 posted on 08/03/2023 10:55:57 AM PDT by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: ConservativeWarrior; Yo-Yo
My company is 100% remote. We are gaining market share and attracting the best and brightest.

My organization is also 100% remote. We have been since March 2020.

We've been #1 in the world at what we do for 9 straight years. We're not in a niche industry, either. Every country has an organization like ours.

23 posted on 08/03/2023 10:57:01 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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To: ShadowAce

All spoiled and pampered they want to work whenever they feel like in their pajamas from the sofa


24 posted on 08/03/2023 10:58:46 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: ClearCase_guy

BFL


25 posted on 08/03/2023 10:58:58 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: ShadowAce
My company had used a lot of leased off-site office space, which they subsequently jettisoned during the shutdown.

They can't bring us all back if they wanted to - just not enough room.

And they apparently save a lot of money having us work from home - the slackers always found a way to loaf in the office anyway, so this way we don't have to see them loaf. And we get more work done.

I'd rather work late in my basement office during a program crunch then stay until late at night in an office 35 miles away.

26 posted on 08/03/2023 11:01:23 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("You'll never hear surf music again" - J. Hendrix)
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To: ConservativeWarrior

“My company is 100% remote. We are gaining market share and attracting the best and brightest. Any company that can’t manage a remote work force needs better managers.”

Exactly. I think those who say remote workers just want to “stay home in their pajamas and work 3 hours a day” are projecting what THEY would do if they worked remotely. Prior to retirement I worked remotely - and managed remote staff - for 40 years with no such issues. In a typical in-office setting, one would be lucky to get in 3 hours of productive work - after meetings and countless other interruptions.


27 posted on 08/03/2023 11:03:00 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: ShadowAce
Girl in a jacket
28 posted on 08/03/2023 11:03:28 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: ShadowAce
employees from historically underrepresented groups are 22% more likely to consider other options if flexibility comes to an end.

Gee, I thought these "underrepresented" groups were oppressed and suffered job discrimination?

They don't sound so oppressed if they feel free to quit these jobs which they allegedly have such trouble finding.

29 posted on 08/03/2023 11:05:17 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: rexthecat

“No one should give a crap about employees feelings. It’s like crying in baseball. Ridiculous.”

You actually believe that baseball management doesn’t care about the feelings of their multi-million dollar talent?


30 posted on 08/03/2023 11:06:13 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: ShadowAce

So folks quit when they were instructed to come back or be fired? Seems okay


31 posted on 08/03/2023 11:06:47 AM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: ShadowAce

“The Greenhouse report has ranked employees’ priorities as:

Increased compensation (48%)”

There you go. Cash is still king. If you really want to get people to come back in, and not quit on you when you ask that, then offer them more money in exchange.


32 posted on 08/03/2023 11:08:27 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ought-six

“And that is EXACTLY what these little snowflakes are rebelling against.”

Hate to break it to you, but I’m hardly a snowflake. I’m a 40+ year Engineer and Project Manager, and I’m doing my job extremely well from home for three years now.

If I need to have eyeballs or hands on something, I’ll go in.

Manufacturing type work and oversight needs your presence, but typing plans, designing process flows, and untangling stupid practices can be done mostly from my desk, and my desk doesn’t care where it is. For many jobs, it is not necessary to be there.

Good employees will give you good work from home. If you’re not getting good work from your employees, cut ‘em loose.


33 posted on 08/03/2023 11:09:25 AM PDT by HeadOn (Love God. Lead your family. Be a man.)
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To: rexthecat

“No one should give a crap about employees feelings.”

I guess your company is doing great with its fully robotic workforce, eh?


34 posted on 08/03/2023 11:09:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ShadowAce
Unintended consequences for those titans of industry who supported mask mandates, lockdowns and the politicians who supported the same AND the steal. I know tons of people who took advantage of the opportunity to be productive away from the office and a lot of people who wasted the opportunity. Those who wasted it were caught up in layoffs as it’s pretty clear to management if you’re not doing your job at the same level prior to the lockdowns.

Technology is such that home office set ups are now just as good if not better than the office plus the ability to work from wherever has never been more convenient.

There certainly is a benefit to hybrid working as your pool of experienced candidates becomes much wider but it’s up to managers to have a plan in place to manage those remote workers. In todays world (for most) - work isn’t where you go, it’s what you do….

35 posted on 08/03/2023 11:09:54 AM PDT by capydick (“the Bible are the answers Withinfor all the problems men face.the covers of )
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To: ShadowAce

Hire a boomer.
Best decision you will ever make, in this current environment.
Boomers have done the politics thing, they don’t GAF.
Boomers have already climbed the ladder, they don’t GAF
Career advancement? Don’t GAF.

But, expect to pay them well.


36 posted on 08/03/2023 11:09:57 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Cracker...)
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To: NWFree

On location it is easier to set up teams and promote those that meet your DEI goals instead of performance.


37 posted on 08/03/2023 11:10:18 AM PDT by alternatives?
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To: ought-six
We have created a generation of utter crybabies and entitled little brats who will spell doom for not only themselves, but for a great many who are caught up in the chaos that will ensue.

Our government has spawned a generation of wimps. Societies made of sterner stuff are going to eat the wimps’ lunch as we older folks “cross over the river and rest in the shade of the trees.”

True. America is living off the social and economic capital accumulated by past generations.

Eventually the capital will run out, and America will collapse.

But I'm old enough that I (hopefully) won't be around to see the worst of it. Millennials and Gen Z won't be so lucky.

38 posted on 08/03/2023 11:10:31 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: FLT-bird

“Actually a lot of the best and most in-demand employees left.”

Yep, because the people who know they can go get another job (and demand remote work from other employers) are not the unskilled workers.


39 posted on 08/03/2023 11:11:30 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: ShadowAce

It’s pure risk for the employee, and almost no benefit. It’s also a pay cut, and a considerable one.


40 posted on 08/03/2023 11:12:00 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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